14 old girl became pregnant after being raped by five Russian soldiers

[rayg]

A 14-year-old girl is pregnant after being raped by five Russian soldiers in Ukraine, according to reports.

The Girl who was raped by 5 Russian soldiers and became pregnant may not be able to have kids again

The teenager, from Bucha, plans to keep the child after doctors warned if she had an abortion now she may not be able to have children again, a report said

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/girl-14-raped-russian-soldiers-26811971

[togor]

A 14-year-old girl is pregnant after being raped by five Russian soldiers in Ukraine, according to reports.

The Girl who was raped by 5 Russian soldiers and became pregnant may not be able to have kids again

The teenager, from Bucha, plans to keep the child after doctors warned if she had an abortion now she may not be able to have children again, a report said


https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-...diers-26811971

If it was Texas I don't think she even gets the choice.

[bruce]

If it was Texas I don't think she even gets the choice. Likely true. As well, no child aborted ever had even one moment to choose life. Sincerely. bruce.

[Art]

If it was Texas I don't think she even gets the choice.

You're really going to hate the law Oklahoma is about to pass.....

Ohio is poised to pass one that is more strict than either Texas or Oklahoma's. You may find the Texas law to be pretty liberal before long.

[RED]

She has the choice not to have an abortion.

[Roadkingtrax]

She has the choice not to have an abortion.

Very informative.

[RED]

Yes, now you know that every pregnant woman in the US does not HAVE TO get a abortion and can have a child instead of having to import one over the the Southern border.

[dryheat]

A decision by a young woman; do I raise the kid of the a****** that raped me (doesn't just happen overseas)? It's a lotto of whose sperm. Who knows, he might be the best guy in the platoon. Now it's up to her to make it work. If it was me, and it's not, I'd get the abortion, but that's so much work. Ya, know, war and all.

[Roadkingtrax]

Yes, now you know that every pregnant woman in the US does not HAVE TO get a abortion and can have a child instead of having to import one over the the Southern border.

There are no forced abortions here, but many states are trending towards forced births.

Not sure what your import comment is about.

[Mark in Ottawa]

One effect of the restrictive abortion laws is that it will increase medical tourism to Canada and other countries. Right now, because Canada has drug prices that in many cases are about half the price as in the US, we get busloads of elderly Americans coming up to buy pharmaceuticals. They have to make some kind of arrangement with a Canadian physician to approve their American prescriptions but that is apparently not difficult and they are allowed to import a three month supply to the US. Similarly, in Canada, abortion is legal and available on demand. A non-resident will have to pay for it of course, but the costs are much less than in the USA. We do love American tourists, irrespective of why they visit.

[togor]

And Mark, because abortion "tourism" is going to happen, not just to Canada but to places like Columbia or even Mexico, besides blue states, the anti-rights people will have to up the ante.

Enter the womb police. Have a miscarriage at home? Better get a police report. Because if the lady in Apartment 2C noticed the bulge before it was gone, and reports you, then you could be looking at serious prison time.

They told us this wouldn't happen. They still tell us this won't happen. They're lying, or foolish.

Women as breeding stock, all rights conferred to the zygote/embryo/fetus. The criminalization of pregnancy. But they'll tell us this is as it should be as set forth in the Constitution, and their feeble-minded followers will agree.

[Art]

Enter the womb police. Have a miscarriage at home? Better get a police report. Because if the lady in Apartment 2C noticed the bulge before it was gone, and reports you, then you could be looking at serious prison time.

Interestingly....self induced abortion is legal in Texas. A woman was just acquitted on that basis here in a criminal trial. There were two issues, first the Texas law is civil not criminal, so a crime cannot be alleged, and since only one person was involved there can be no plaintiff.

[togor]

Interestingly....self induced abortion is legal in Texas. A woman was just acquitted on that basis here in a criminal trial. There were two issues, first the Texas law is civil not criminal, so a crime cannot be alleged, and since only one person was involved there can be no plaintiff.

Just a matter of time. We both know it. When the laws passed don't have the intended effect, new laws will be enacted. The Texas Taliban have crossed the Rubicon for taking away rights. Gun owners take note. Because others will watch and learn.

[Art]

If the people of Texas don't like what's going on they'll vote these people out. Every pol who voted for the Texas law ran as "Pro Life" before they were elected. These laws aren't just passing by a lot, they're passing often with veto proof majorities. Ultimately the laws of a state, abortion or otherwise, fall back on the people of that state. The same is true of "pro choice" states like New York which passed a law repealing the state requirement that when an abortion results in a live birth that child has to receive treatment or an Oregon law which makes abortion legal for sex selection. Imagine the uproar from the LGBTQ+ crowd if a "gay gene" ever was identified and people started aborting gay kids.

I avoid using "pro choice" and "pro life" because they're euphemisms for pro abortion and anti abortion, the zealots on both sides drive the arguments, just like most issues including guns.

There are a lot of reasons to dislike the Texas law. I've said before its sneaky and designed to avoid judicial scrutiny which it has so far. Those Oakies and Buckeyes are a lot more straight up. Ohio Taliban just doesn't "sing."

This will, eventually, wind up in the Supreme Court despite the fact that I think they're scared to death of dealing with it....sort of like gun rights for 70 years.

It has been well said that the pro aborts won the day Roe was decided and have been losing ever since.

[togor]

"Pro life" has been a political cause for fundraising and picking primary candidates for decades now, even to the point that "feel good" laws were passed knowing they may well be overturned.

Well the dog finally caught the car it appears. Let's see what happens next.

The original anti-abortion folks held certain lines, like they weren't going to target the women (which explains the Texas law you mentioned). That went a long way towards giving their case credibility.

But to give all rights to the embryo/zygote/fetus and deny all rights to the woman, which is the standard position (including yours, IIRC), points inevitably to impending crackdowns on women. Otherwise, the logic goes, why did we fight all this time only to see some loophole make it all for nothing?

So yes, the crackdowns are coming. As are the horror stories. Sow the wind, reap the whirlwind.