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  • RED
    Very Senior Member - OFC
    • Aug 2009
    • 11689

    #1

    What is the most recycled product in the U.S.

    Answer: Lead acid batteries. Somewhere above 90% are recycled. They go into a immense grinder and the liquid acid is saved and used to make fertilizer. The plastic pieces are retrieved, remolded, and made into new battery boxes. The lead is resmeltered and used to make new battery plates and lead oxide.

    What is one of the least recycled products in the U.S.

    Answer: Lithium batteries 10% or less.

    What is the second most recycled product.

    Answer: Aluminum cans, about 26%.

    FWIW
    Last edited by RED; 05-14-2022, 08:42.
  • dryheat
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 10587

    #2
    -the liquid acid is saved and used to make fertilizer. - That sounds appetizing.
    Aluminum is homeless peoples money. That's "food grade" aluminum. I learned that aircraft aluminum, as shiny as it is, isn't food grade. Yeah, it's 4021 or something but it not beer can grade. Here in AZ it is profitable to collect aluminum and fill up a semi and drive it over to CA. You know, it's California.
    If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.

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    • dogtag
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 14985

      #3
      I have to buy a new battery for my truck. Stupidly I blew up my charger
      because I failed to notice no light came on when hooked up - I plugged
      it in and poof (luckily it's a cheap 8 dollar trickle charger)
      I once broke up a battery out of curiosity. Terminals were the only lead,
      inside had weird small pellets plus the plates and sulfuric acid. Big Deal.

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      • Vern Humphrey
        Administrator - OFC
        • Aug 2009
        • 15875

        #4
        Originally posted by dryheat
        -the liquid acid is saved and used to make fertilizer. - That sounds appetizing.
        Aluminum is homeless peoples money. That's "food grade" aluminum. I learned that aircraft aluminum, as shiny as it is, isn't food grade. Yeah, it's 4021 or something but it not beer can grade. Here in AZ it is profitable to collect aluminum and fill up a semi and drive it over to CA. You know, it's California.
        When I worked in Michigan, I used to come home to Virginia every other weekend. Every so often I'd fill the bed of my truck with Sam's Diet Soda and take it to Michigan. I made enough money recycling the empty cans to pay for the soda and a bit more.

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        • Roadkingtrax
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2010
          • 7835

          #5
          Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
          When I worked in Michigan, I used to come home to Virginia every other weekend. Every so often I'd fill the bed of my truck with Sam's Diet Soda and take it to Michigan. I made enough money recycling the empty cans to pay for the soda and a bit more.
          That was and is illegal. With the new $0.10 returns, the machine readable codes differentiate those cans and bottles sold out of the area.
          Last edited by Roadkingtrax; 05-15-2022, 12:00.
          "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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          • dogtag
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2009
            • 14985

            #6
            The most recycled bodies are the Hollywood starlets. Their liaisons generally
            last about two weeks, marriages three, then they're off bed hopping again.
            Another short marriage followed by a quick divorce and they're off again.

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            • RED
              Very Senior Member - OFC
              • Aug 2009
              • 11689

              #7
              As if a recycle business would scan every one of a truck load of crushed cans or would refuse a 42,000 lb load because they found a dozen out of area cans.

              Common sense is archaic and escapes our progressive friends.

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              • Roadkingtrax
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2010
                • 7835

                #8
                Originally posted by RED
                As if a recycle business would scan every one of a truck load of crushed cans or would refuse a 42,000 lb load because they found a dozen out of area cans.

                Common sense is archaic and escapes our progressive friends.
                Youre so ignorant it hurts. You don't know how bottle returns work in Michigan. Ever watch Seinfeld?

                It's not by the pound, it's by the individual unit. Each bottle or can is a dime. They use automatic machines today dumbazz.

                Educate yourself. Crushed cans are not accepted if not legible.

                Last edited by Roadkingtrax; 05-15-2022, 04:40.
                "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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                • togor
                  Banned
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 17610

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Roadkingtrax
                  Youre so ignorant it hurts. You don't know how bottle returns work in Michigan. Ever watch Seinfeld?

                  It's not by the pound, it's by the individual unit. Each bottle or can is a dime. They use automatic machines today dumbazz.

                  Educate yourself. Crushed cans are not accepted if not legible.

                  https://www.michigan.gov/egle/about/...an-bottle-bill
                  On the plus side, something to bring up after the next holier-than-thou.

                  When I was a little kid, the deposit on soda bottles was 2 cents. And the local liquor store sold pretzel rods, individually, for 2 cents. So me and my sibling, or friend, found a couple bottles, we knew where to run!

                  And yes, we'd run a half mile to swap soda bottles for pretzel rods. Even if we had to split just the one. The old rule: one divides, the other chooses.

                  Finding a smashed bottle, because the drinker didn't care, was a serious crime in our view. A 2 cent waste of a perfectly good soda bottle.

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                  • RED
                    Very Senior Member - OFC
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 11689

                    #10
                    I worked with dozens of recycle companies in MO, IL, and NW KY. Not one single one of them had any sort of scanning devices. They dealt in thousands of cans, bottles, and batteries. Many of them are still active.

                    The point of the post is that lead acid batteries are far and away the most recycled products in this country and lithium batteries are one of the least. The BS about 10 cent cans and bottles recycled via grocery stores is a lead balloon that does not float. Some of the guys I worked with recycled 10,000 aluminum cans in a week. And yes they were smashed before they reached the smelter. Many of them were sold to China as 42,000 lb trailer loads.

                    BTW, it takes 1,344,000, empty12 oz aluminum beer cans to make a trailer load. It takes about 1,300 average car batteries (33 lbs) to fill a trailer.
                    Last edited by RED; 05-15-2022, 06:31.

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                    • lyman
                      Administrator - OFC
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 11268

                      #11
                      Originally posted by togor
                      On the plus side, something to bring up after the next holier-than-thou.

                      When I was a little kid, the deposit on soda bottles was 2 cents. And the local liquor store sold pretzel rods, individually, for 2 cents. So me and my sibling, or friend, found a couple bottles, we knew where to run!

                      And yes, we'd run a half mile to swap soda bottles for pretzel rods. Even if we had to split just the one. The old rule: one divides, the other chooses.

                      Finding a smashed bottle, because the drinker didn't care, was a serious crime in our view. A 2 cent waste of a perfectly good soda bottle.
                      but insults and name calling is ok? oh,, yep,, as long as it is not you

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                      • Roadkingtrax
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 7835

                        #12
                        So we've learned, Red can't read and Vern violated state laws.

                        Red, each bottle (glass or plastic) and can had to be counted for the grocery stores to be reimbursed by the recycling companies. Computers do the work today in bottle return centers. When you buy a six pack, you pay 60 cents extra, to ensure it won't end up in a ditch. Bottles purchased out of state, without a Michigan return, would be stealing from Michigan residents.

                        It's not complicated unless you're illiterate. This was instituted to keep the Great Lakes clear of additional trash.
                        Last edited by Roadkingtrax; 05-15-2022, 05:50.
                        "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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                        • Roadkingtrax
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 7835

                          #13
                          Originally posted by togor
                          On the plus side, something to bring up after the next holier-than-thou.

                          When I was a little kid, the deposit on soda bottles was 2 cents. And the local liquor store sold pretzel rods, individually, for 2 cents. So me and my sibling, or friend, found a couple bottles, we knew where to run!

                          And yes, we'd run a half mile to swap soda bottles for pretzel rods. Even if we had to split just the one. The old rule: one divides, the other chooses.

                          Finding a smashed bottle, because the drinker didn't care, was a serious crime in our view. A 2 cent waste of a perfectly good soda bottle.
                          He refuses to be educated...but I'm trying. Maybe picture will help?
                          "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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                          • RED
                            Very Senior Member - OFC
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 11689

                            #14
                            Totally ignorant. Smelters pay by the pound. Grocery stores are involved in only about 10% of the aluminum cans that are recycled. You can take your cans to a local independent recycler and sell them. 10X more cans are pulled out of garbage and off road sides than are redeemed at grocery stores. The government pays 10x more for scrap cans than what the smelters pay. That is a huge loss.

                            Back in 2005 M0 passed a law that there would be a $.50 tax on sales of new lead acid batteries to pay for their recycling. As of 2019 MO has recycled ZERO lead acid batteries.

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                            • Roadkingtrax
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 7835

                              #15
                              I do admit, unlike the Ozarks, the cans get turned in for money and do not meet an end as a meth smoking vessel.

                              Whatever works.
                              Last edited by Roadkingtrax; 05-15-2022, 07:17.
                              "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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