Know Anyone Who Regrets Taking the Toxic VAX?

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  • Roadkingtrax
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2010
    • 7835

    #16
    Q gonna Q.

    This is a 18 month old rerun.
    "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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    • togor
      Banned
      • Nov 2009
      • 17610

      #17
      How do we know that the people messed up by the vaccine wouldn't be messed up even worse by the actual virus? If spikes are spikes, then at least the the vaccine is a finite, non-replicating dose (mRNA version). By contrast the actual virus turns countless trillions of cells in in the population into literally human spike factories.

      Getting the actual virus cannot possibly be a better strategy if avoiding the spikes is the goal. Say what you will about the vaccine, but in the overwhelming percentage of cases it harms no one. Just as the overwhelming percentage of guns harm no one.
      Last edited by togor; 05-30-2022, 10:40.

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      • Sandpebble
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2017
        • 2196

        #18
        From a blog ....

        Statistically Speaking ….
        Posted on April 4, 2022 by Rich

        You just can’t help but observe that we Americans use an awful lot of statistics to convince each other, or just ourselves , of things we so want to believe . More obvious still is that actual facts needn’t be permitted to interfere with our stats of choice . My newest neighbor got me thinking of statistics the other day with his endless babble ….

        Similar to our past administration the present one has put out some interesting “stats” on jobs for instance. “Well over 400,000 new jobs were recently created ” was the boast I heard on the radio and I’d say the creation of 400,000 + jobs is a stat that has a pretty good face value . But permit me to smear the ointment on the fly with a query . How many walking , talking humans have showed up to fill all those wonderful newly created jobs ? That’s the stat I want to hear . So there I go… just another American cherry picking the statistics I want to hear.

        The new neighbor has recently moved here from far away with his new wife to live in what he describes as the “Free State of Florida” .

        ” We don’t have to get vaccinated here ” he said and further enlightened me of his fears .

        ” Statistics show that thirty six people have died as a direct result of the vaccine . We don’t want to take a chance…. besides, we’re thinking about having a child .”

        And this is where you may imagine my eyes glaze over as I lose interest in his beliefs . I’m not sure where he obtained his life changing statistics but I am sure I don’t care because I have a statistic or two that I’d much rather believe .

        Four out of five children with cancer in the United States survive more than five years while in most of the world that rate is the opposite of only one in five . I would say those phenomenal advances made here in the United States would be due to statistically having the most advanced medical and scientific minds on the planet. We are blessed with men and women who have attended the likes of Harvard Medical , Duke University and many other prestigious research universities that are the envy of the world .

        I think there is statistically a far greater chance of me believing and trusting our science and medical world than my neighbor does . And I think I’ll stick with them while neighbor … you are statistically stuck with Tucker ….

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        • Mark in Ottawa
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 1744

          #19
          The latest figures suggest that in the first year of its use, the COVID vaccine saved about 20,000,000 lives. Do you consider that to be a toxic result?

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          • Allen
            Moderator
            • Sep 2009
            • 10583

            #20
            Originally posted by Mark in Ottawa
            The latest figures suggest that in the first year of its use, the COVID vaccine saved about 20,000,000 lives. Do you consider that to be a toxic result?
            This comes from the same news sources that persuaded everyone to get the vax so what do you expect? How would they know if someone would have died if they didn't get the stab?

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            • togor
              Banned
              • Nov 2009
              • 17610

              #21
              Originally posted by Allen
              This comes from the same news sources that persuaded everyone to get the vax so what do you expect? How would they know if someone would have died if they didn't get the stab?
              It's one thing to reject someone else's argument. It's quite another to come up with a better plan. This is the stumbling block that continues to cause anti-vaxxer face-plants.

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              • RED
                Very Senior Member - OFC
                • Aug 2009
                • 11689

                #22
                How many people have died because they were not vaccinated?

                Answer: millions

                How many people have died (my sister is one) because a unvaxxed relative infected them!

                Answer: millions

                How many people have actually died because they were vaccinated?

                Answer: 13

                How many people did not die because they were vaccinated?

                Answer: 1.7 billion

                I just read where the US has a polio victim. That is great news! If we can have a few million more cases, that would be another vaccination for the nonvaxxers to hate.

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                • lyman
                  Administrator - OFC
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 11269

                  #23
                  we will never know the true numbers,

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                  • RED
                    Very Senior Member - OFC
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 11689

                    #24
                    Originally posted by lyman
                    we will never know the true numbers,
                    So very true. There are a bunch of numbers that used to be easily accessed that are now impossible to find. If it supported the conservative view, it is gone.

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                    • blackhawknj
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 3754

                      #25
                      I note the term "co-morbidity" has disappeared from the news. All the deaths that were attributed to Covid-19, then it was revealed those people had serious pre-existing conditions.

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                      • Allen
                        Moderator
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 10583

                        #26
                        Originally posted by blackhawknj
                        I note the term "co-morbidity" has disappeared from the news. All the deaths that were attributed to Covid-19, then it was revealed those people had serious pre-existing conditions.
                        Saw that happen locally even. Some had been sick for years.

                        On some celebrity deaths sites a majority died of covid. The instant biden took office the claims shut off like a faucet revealing the true causes.

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                        • Art
                          Senior Member, Deceased
                          • Dec 2009
                          • 9256

                          #27
                          I had the cooties and was pretty sick for about two weeks. I wasn't near death or in the hospital but pretty well slept away at least 10 days. I took both the initial shots and was sick with Covid symptoms for about 1 1/2 to two days which is supposed to indicated healthy anti Covid anti bodies according to the docs I know.

                          I have cancer which puts me in a little different spot and frankly I'm a bit conflicted. I am aware this is not a vaccine. Its a prophylactic therapeutic treatment, not a preventative. On the other hand it does mitigate symptoms in serious cases. If I do get a "boost" it won't be until fall or winter when they've had time to do more work on it.
                          Last edited by Art; 09-16-2022, 10:35.

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                          • bruce
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 3759

                            #28
                            "Know anyone who regrets vaccination?" No. Not one. Know anyone who wishes they had gotten vaccinated? Yep. Visit some of them weekly as they deal with the consequences of getting Covid and then having long term negative results. Also conducted funerals in which the deceased died due to "co-morbidity," and a couple where the deceased just plain old died of covid inspite of being young, healthy and very much into exercise. Sincerely. bruce.
                            " Unlike most conservatives, libs have no problem exploiting dead children and dancing on their graves."

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                            • Mark in Ottawa
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 1744

                              #29
                              My wife and I have had 5 vaccinations including the latest Moderna Bivalent one that is designed to work on the Omicron variant. So far, neither of us have had more than a mildly sore arm for a day or two after the injections.

                              A WHO study suggests that in the first year of use, COVID vaccinations saved about 20,000,000 lives. You can quibble about whether that figure is accurate but the reality is that the vaccinations are pretty effective even if some people who have been vaccinated have died. Nothing is perfect but your odds of not getting COVID or being able to survive it with few problems are far better if you have been vaccinated.

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                              • Allen
                                Moderator
                                • Sep 2009
                                • 10583

                                #30
                                Questions remain:

                                How do you know how many lives (if any) the vaccinations saved?

                                How do you know how many spread the virus due to not being vaccinated?

                                How many spread the virus that was vaccinated?

                                How can a person even tell who they caught the virus from?

                                Who in their right mind would believe anything presented by WHO, Fauci or the news media? Not only are they the ones pushing the vaccinations they played a hand in the development, spread, and cover-up of the virus in the first place.

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