Weapon of choice

[barretcreek]

https://amgreatness.com/2022/05/31/why-do-so-many-mass-shootings-involve-an-ar-15/

My take is a little different. Killers choose the weapon which will give them headlines. 12 ga with an extended magazine? Grandpa's duck gun, nothing radical about that.

[dogtag]

If you're going to do something 'famous', do it with a 'famous' weapon.
A Black Rifle - even the name can send shivers down wussies' spines.

[togor]

Firepower matters and even the kids have figured that out.

Also true that it is what their generation is exposed to. Kids just don't see break-action firearms anymore. Even lever guns are less common. (And for another hint look at where the traditional names have positioned themselves in the marketplace, and where the new names are.)

Someone with little firearms experience wants to produce a high volume fire at close range, with manageable recoil and fast reloads. ARs do that very efficiently. We should be honest about that fact.

But like the writer says, these incidents show complacency in a whole host of other ways. So don't put it all on the instrument, like the banners want. But the instrument is capable of these volumes of fire in unskilled hands in the wrong places. So don't say the instrument of choice has nothing to do with it either, because that's clearly not true. Give him a 100 rounds of ball M2 and a M1903 and the hits will also be catastrophic to the victims, but he won't get the 100 rounds off either. Not even close.

[one shot]

I remember when the weapon of choice was the AK47 , what I want to know is how a kid can afford 2 Daniels defence ARs they cost about 2 grand apiece https://danieldefense.com/rifles/ar-15-rifles.html now add 400 rounds of ammo and some tactical gear you add it up .https://danieldefense.com/rifles/ar-15-rifles.html

[togor]

Apparently he didn't have a social life to support. Maybe turning 18 he got possession a savings account from younger days.

One can also ask the gun shop if they had to make that particular sale. Sure, customer is right, but in the old days customer would have been right and still walked out of the store with a lever gun.

[dogtag]

Maybe he was selling drugs - a lucrative occupation.

[Sandpebble]

Maybe he was selling drugs - a lucrative occupation.

That's correct DT .... however , here in the "United" States even youthful drug dealers with no record are entitled to the freedom of purchasing weapons capable of what he did.

[Sandpebble]

I remember when the weapon of choice was the AK47 , what I want to know is how a kid can afford 2 Daniels defence ARs they cost about 2 grand apiece https://danieldefense.com/rifles/ar-15-rifles.html now add 400 rounds of ammo and some tactical gear you add it up .https://danieldefense.com/rifles/ar-15-rifles.html

What I want to know is how we look the parents of those children in the eye after we accuse them of a knee jerk reaction when they express disdain for our toys ... like we've done the last few school killings .

[togor]

What I want to know is how we look the parents of those children in the eye after we accuse them of a knee jerk reaction when they express disdain for our toys ... like we've done the last few school killings .

In this particular case I don't know if the parents care what the rest of us think. It's rural Texas where a gun tradition runs strong. The thing that bit them, complacency, is hard (impossible?) to legislate against.

[lyman]

What I want to know is how we look the parents of those children in the eye after we accuse them of a knee jerk reaction when they express disdain for our toys ... like we've done the last few school killings .

very easily,


look them in the eye, tell then you are genuinely sorry for what happened to them and their family, and remember to place the blame on the guy/gal that pulled the trigger, not the tool

blaming an inanimate object for an issue is not going to fix any future issues

[barretcreek]

https://policetribune.com/retired-agent-5-others-under-investigation-for-possibly-having-advance-notice-of-mass-shooting-at-grocery-store/

What I want to know is why anyone thinks a particular way of being murdered is better or worse than another. I've been the victim of several felonies, only one involving a firearm but each one committed by some piece of crap.

Anyhow, I think there have been other mass killers who've corresponded with some a-hole calling itself 'sandman'. The little space alien looking creature up in Connecticut for example.

[togor]

Tell you what though....

1 day after Tulsa, there's this:

https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/02/us/south-carolina-child-killed-shooting-cars/index.html

Official start of summer not even here yet.

If this keeps then there will be changes, unless responsible gun owners cought up a convincing plan to separate themselves from the crooks and the nuts post haste.

[Sandpebble]

very easily,


look them in the eye, tell then you are genuinely sorry for what happened to them and their family, and remember to place the blame on the guy/gal that pulled the trigger, not the tool

blaming an inanimate object for an issue is not going to fix any future issues

Unlike you , I don't think I could do that " very easily " .... I don't think I could tell them that the man could have attacked all their children with a hammer so leave my ARs alone .

[barretcreek]

Unlike you , I don't think I could do that " very easily " .... I don't think I could tell them that the man could have attacked all their children with a hammer so leave my ARs alone .

Arson has murdered more Americans than any other type of crime. By a long shot.

[Sandpebble]

Arson has murdered more Americans than any other type of crime. By a long shot.

As for many years we've averaged an annual gun death rate of 45,000 people and 3500 due to fire I'd have to say that's just not true Barret