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  • Major Tom
    Very Senior Member - OFC
    • Aug 2009
    • 6181

    #1

    Does anyone believe Putin is to blame

    I mean, Joe keeps saying Putin caused high gas prices and inflation! Facts have shown that to be a blatant lie!
    So who are these people who believe that crap?
    Oh, now I remember who!
  • togor
    Banned
    • Nov 2009
    • 17610

    #2
    Nice rant.

    Do you have any reasoning to back up your position or is this just a case of somebody knowing what he knows not needing to explain any of it?

    Because if you're looking for validation of your position, you are going to have to put in a little effort.

    The causes of inflation, now that it is an interesting discussion. If anyone wants to make serious points about it, this is as good a place as any, and I'm game for it. I'll even put out a two-word hint:

    quantitative easing

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    • Allen
      Moderator
      • Sep 2009
      • 10627

      #3
      Gas was up a dollar a gallon shortly after biden was placed in office. None of us forgot that.

      UPDATE: I’ve updated this post with data as of October 24, 2022 The chart below shows the price of gas on January 21, 2021, Biden’s first official day in office, and the price of gas on…

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      • Major Tom
        Very Senior Member - OFC
        • Aug 2009
        • 6181

        #4
        Originally posted by togor
        Nice rant.

        Do you have any reasoning to back up your position or is this just a case of somebody knowing what he knows not needing to explain any of it?

        Because if you're looking for validation of your position, you are going to have to put in a little effort.

        The causes of inflation, now that it is an interesting discussion. If anyone wants to make serious points about it, this is as good a place as any, and I'm game for it. I'll even put out a two-word hint:

        quantitative easing
        Facts are facts, except for socialists/communists! FACT: gas prices started rising the day Biden was in office. Fact: inflation started soon after, but well before Joe's war with Russia!
        How can you or anyone dispute facts? Our economy is the worst in over 40 years! But Joe says it's just fine and better than 2 years ago.

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        • Roadkingtrax
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2010
          • 7835

          #5
          Originally posted by Allen
          Gas was up a dollar a gallon shortly after biden was placed in office. None of us forgot that.

          https://kevinbae.com/2022/simple-cha...administraion/
          Haha...Placed.

          You and Biden have a lot in common.
          "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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          • togor
            Banned
            • Nov 2009
            • 17610

            #6
            Originally posted by Major Tom
            Facts are facts, except for socialists/communists! FACT: gas prices started rising the day Biden was in office. Fact: inflation started soon after, but well before Joe's war with Russia!
            How can you or anyone dispute facts? Our economy is the worst in over 40 years! But Joe says it's just fine and better than 2 years ago.
            Do you the difference between a correlation and causation? It's a common blunder to argue that because two things are observed together, one causes the other.

            Snow tires and mittens, for example. Neither causes the other but they are observed in roughly the same places and at the same times.

            COVID cratered gas demand. Shale drillers stopped drilling in 2020. But shale wells are short lived. So when demand started coming back, that production interruption was felt as a negative for buyers but a positive for producers who were finally making money. Remember not long ago the Saudis and Russians tried to drive the price down to put stress on US shale producers. So 2021, 2022, these companies are enjoying nice profits and are slow to spend them on new drilling, even though eventually that's the name of the game.

            If you think Sleepy Joe likes the high prices, think again. They're what keep his arch enemy Putin in business.

            Also you are now competing at the pump with increasing multitudes of Chinese, Indian and 3rd world motorists. If nothing else, that should make everyone think about going electric.
            Last edited by togor; 06-12-2022, 06:40.

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            • Allen
              Moderator
              • Sep 2009
              • 10627

              #7
              Chart says it all (as if we weren't there or something).
              Attached Files

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              • Roadkingtrax
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2010
                • 7835

                #8
                Same slope from election to Jan 21'. So...why was it going up with Trump in office?
                "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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                • togor
                  Banned
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 17610

                  #9
                  This thread is like trying to reason with the guys who stand in the back of the room at the all-company meeting with their arms folded and grumpy looks on their faces. They know 1000X better than the CEO how to run the business and they're angry that nobody bothers to ask them.

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                  • Roadkingtrax
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 7835

                    #10
                    Originally posted by togor
                    This thread is like trying to reason with the guys who stand in the back of the room at the all-company meeting with their arms folded and grumpy looks on their faces. They know 1000X better than the CEO how to run the business and they're angry that nobody bothers to ask them.
                    That knife cuts both ways though. In 2016-2020, there was a lot to complain about...but no one blamed them for missing toilet paper. They were responsible for a dismissive response to a global pandemic, etc.

                    There's a difference between going at a person for what they are directly responsible for (or have made public comment on)...and just screaming the same nonsensical arguments at the windmills.
                    "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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                    • one shot
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2021
                      • 534

                      #11
                      It takes less than a minute to vote the rest will fix itself , when we get done counting them mail in ballots .

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                      • Vern Humphrey
                        Administrator - OFC
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 15875

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Major Tom
                        I mean, Joe keeps saying Putin caused high gas prices and inflation! Facts have shown that to be a blatant lie!
                        So who are these people who believe that crap?
                        Oh, now I remember who!
                        Same guy who believes Benghazi was a hoax.

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                        • RED
                          Very Senior Member - OFC
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 11689

                          #13
                          Facts are facts. Fact, Biden killed the Keystone pipeline and at the same time okayed the Nord Stream 2 Russian pipeline.

                          No matter of all the lies, twists, turns, and BS togor posts can not change the facts.

                          Biden and his supporters (togor?) are responsible not only for the inflation, but every dead person resulting from the Ukraine war.

                          They are all Socialists that hate the common working man and murdering millions is just fine with them. How many people were murdered by Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and other totthebars heroes. Not nearly enough to satisfy them.

                          Yes, I am 78 years old and never hated anybody, until now.

                          Just My Honest Opinion. And, yes I understand honest opinions and freedom of speech are all racist, homophobic, and forbidden today.
                          Last edited by RED; 06-12-2022, 02:19.

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                          • Roadkingtrax
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 7835

                            #14
                            How does one reason with Red's nonsense.
                            "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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                            • k arga
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 566

                              #15
                              you don't have to , he's right.

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