Pro-choice protesters burn American flag after Roe v. Wade reversal

[togor]

If I locked you up and told you that you, your wife, and your children were going to be arrested and spend the rest of their lives in jail or at least absolute poverty, would you plead guilty to a crime you did not do?

I sure hope and pray you get that opportunity when your crimes against America are persecuted just like you have persecuted me and others here.

WTF guy?

You're defending Bannon? Charged of defrauding TRUMP WALL SUPPORTERS OUT OF $1M??????

The only one persecuting RED is RED, by forcing RED to hang on to these sh*tty political positions that part of you knows are complete crap. If I irritate you it's because at some level you know I'm right. There's just something plain wrong in Trump pardoning a guy who was defrauding his own supporters. Something in there somewhere is rotten and you know it. And libs have nothing to do with it. So my advice....it's not too late to come to your senses.

Like the old saying

Cojones--better to have them and not need them then to need them and not have them.

[oscars]

Burning the flag is a settled expression of First Amendment rights. Frankly this is a tired out 60’s type of argument. The only place I have seen any play is where old posers abound.

[togor]

Allen is funny

He's worried about overpopulation and each new generation of poorly-raised kids, but simultaneously wants to make dealing with those issues that much harder.

He's against an oppressive state but for one so long as it only imposes itself on other people.

If the country is headed down a bad path then the confused thinking of the Allens could be a big reason why.

[rayg]

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Well Ray it was Trump who gave us this court that took away a right from Americans.

Trump had no control over the vote!


The question for you is whether or not you can see a larger principle behind the actions,

I see a disrespect for the flag and country and those that died to preserve our freedom. Call me old fashion if you want!

[lyman]

If a mob is going to empty out a store, then the per cart value is going to average out. Not enough jewelry and electronics for everyone to get a big score. Some people have to leave with appliances and pillows. Or just couple cases of beer from the liquor department.

I'll stick with it....every $1M of illegal gains by Trump or one of his friends is equivalent to 3 miles of shopping cart looters. Trump's own "stop the steal" fund-raiser of $250M could get from Council Bluffs to Cheyenne with carts to spare.

https://nypost.com/2022/06/13/trump-...lection-claim/

is he still paying rent on that big empty loft apartment in your head?

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Wow took some bad pills, affecting your thinking.

1) Bannon was under Federal indictment for taking part in a $25M "build the wall" fund raiser (the extent to which Trumpworld is willing to get scammed knows no bounds apparently), and then skimming $1M of it for his personal use.

2) While the FEDERAL prosecution was moving forward, Trump pardoned Bannon.

3) Accepting a pardon amounts for the record to an admission of guilt. Not a prosecutable admission (there was a pardon after all) but recipient is saying "yes I did it".

I remember when the sh*t hit the fan before the first impeachment trial. The defense of Trump here was "well has he been indicted of anything? No? Hah!"

Obviously guilty until proven innocent by a jury. Unless a pardon is issued, and excepted, in which case, guilty but without punishment.

And yet you still give Trump the benefit of the doubt and twist like mad to try to turn the subject away from the crooked Bannon and the crooked Trump. They have eyes, but they cannot see.

Back to the OP:

Burning flags is not my style. Flying one upside down for awhile does seem appropriate. The country is going through some stuff and Alito decided to pour gas on it. I guess if it's a full-on culture war, we'll see who has the numbers on their side.

jumping jiminy crickets,

your side, as in the side you have been shilling for, has been a a full fledged culture war for over a decade, and now you think Alito poured gas on it?


more like Alito had a small kitchen fire extinguisher, trying to battle a forest fire in high winds,,

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Burning the flag is a settled expression of First Amendment rights. Frankly this is a tired out 60’s type of argument. The only place I have seen any play is where old posers abound.

you have a vaild point

[togor]

My side Lyman?

If you read my posts, understood them, you'd see I attack from what used to be the right.

The three main issues of contention these days--guns, abortion, voting.

The GOP takes the pro-freedom position on exactly one of them.

For that they are rightfully attacked.

[lyman]

My side Lyman?

If you read my posts, understood them, you'd see I attack from what used to be the right.

The three main issues of contention these days--guns, abortion, voting.

The GOP takes the pro-freedom position on exactly one of them.

For that they are rightfully attacked.

you have been a shill for the Dem party since forever


yet you live in the closet, as in you are the only one that tries hard to get others to believe you are not,


just accept it, come out the closet, it may be enlightening for you, besides we already know it

[rayg]

you have been a shill for the Dem party since forever

He's a good Dem party member if not a committee member. But he makes for interesting posts trying to knock down conservative thoughts and ideals.

[lyman]

He's a good Dem party member if not a committee member. But he makes for interesting posts trying to knock down conservative thoughts and ideals.

and almost always insulting or elitist when doing so,


which basically negates his argument and just reinforces the other side

[Vern Humphrey]

and almost always insulting or elitist when doing so,


which basically negates his argument and just reinforces the other side

You're right. He's never understood that you can't persuade people by insulting them.

[Allen]

You're right. He's never understood that you can't persuade people by insulting them.

Very true, plus it's what he thinks he can persuade us to no matter how much he is paid.

He's left---we're right. That's NOT going to change.

He's pro anybody that democrat---we're NOT. That's not going to change.

He's pro abortion and anti-gun---we're NOT. That's not going to change.

He's socialist and only believes news that agree's with him and his party---we don't. That's not going to change.

He must get paid by the comment. That would explain why he stays on this forum (and no doubt others) 24/7, reply's to everyone's comments and always has to get the last word in.

[Roadkingtrax]

You're right. He's never understood that you can't persuade people by insulting them.

Nor can a person by virtue signaling Hump.

You aren't taking an honest look at your own boorish behavior.

[blackhawknj]

The Left is having a giant temper tantrum because , as a lawyer who clerked for Gorsuch noted, they have long believed that precedents and rulings they like-Roe, e.g.-are as immutable as the Rocky Mountains or the course of the Mississippi River, ones they don't like-Bowers vs Hardwick, e.g. -are to be reversed. At the time of the Bork confirmation battle in 1987 Hodding Carter III said "for thirty years liberals have relied on the least democratic branch of government to get their agenda through", now that the other side has learned the rules of the game, they don't like it.

[togor]

The Left is having a giant temper tantrum because , as a lawyer who clerked for Gorsuch noted, they have long believed that precedents and rulings they like-Roe, e.g.-are as immutable as the Rocky Mountains or the course of the Mississippi River, ones they don't like-Bowers vs Hardwick, e.g. -are to be reversed. At the time of the Bork confirmation battle in 1987 Hodding Carter III said "for thirty years liberals have relied on the least democratic branch of government to get their agenda through", now that the other side has learned the rules of the game, they don't like it.

If you woke up one morning and some body of government had taken away a personal right that you valued, would you:

A) calmly accept it with a shrug, or

B) get hopping mad and look around to see if other Americans were with you, on the reasoning that TRUE AMERICANS DON'T TAKE WELL TO THE GOVERNMENT YANKING THEIR RIGHTS

If you're telling me that you'd do A, well alright then.

But don't reserve B for yourself and then get sniffy if others refuse to take A. Because at the end of the day you're still applauding where rights are taken away. And in my book that is a bad look for ANY American.

[lyman]

what rights togor?