The new Red Flag laws

[RED]

Just another act where the left is trying to convince their indoctrinated followers that they are getting something accomplished. If I understand the new law, it essentially allows States to pass laws that several States have already passed. Laws that if obeyed would hopefully stop school shootings. (Connecticut was first and passed Red Flag laws in 1999. The Sandy Hook shooting was in December, 2012.)

So here comes the refrain? Quote? It would not have happened but it was just not the exact right law, so we will rewrite the law and this time it will work and there will never be another mass shooting in CT.

Bottom line, the new law is like rice at a wedding, nobody wants to swallow it and it has nothing to do with how successful the marriage will be.

JMHO

BTW. The States also have the right to succeed from the union.

[Allen]

Obviously the red flag laws will lead to gun confiscation of law abiding citizens. Everyone knows it. Any law that is passed will be exceeded by the liberals into their favor except enforcing laws that punish the criminals.

IF our existing laws were held like intended our prisons would soon be near empty and most any type crime would be rare. Instead, our prisoners have TV time, visitation time, free time for sex all in the comfort of an air conditioned facility.

I know prison life isn't a good place to be but they have it better than most of us did in the public school system.

Time off for good behavior? Where the hell did that come from? Good behavior is to be expected. It should be extra time given for bad behavior.

Parole. Short sentences. Sometimes, even after conviction a person never sees the inside of a jail cell. Murder? How often do we hear of someone getting out after just a few years or months?

A sentence should be a sentence. Nothing less.

If a person knew they would have to do the time for the crime many would never follow through.

Shootings at schools, malls and churches? It's become entertainment in a lawless society.


However, red laws will definitely be carried out for those of us who own a gun. It will begin with those of us who have a sizable collection, then dwindle down to having more than one, then, ownership of a single firearm. You can bank on it.

And who is going to report you? Take a guess.

If red flag laws didn't favor the liberals and only the liberals then why did they push it and support it 100% in congress. THAT is the red flag.

Hopefully we can soon get a real president and an actual GOP house and senate to undo some of this commie chit.

[dogtag]

They'll seek warrants from only Obama or Clinton Judges
which means they'll always get their warrants.

[RED]

I agree on some of your points. But I do not agree these new laws will change anything. Our salvation for a Democracy is in State Rights and, yes, the Roe V. Wade overturn merely confirms the fact the States do have rights. The new Red Flags act surrenders to that as well.

This is HUGE! If you are a hard core abortionist, a hard anti gun and and anti Capitalist, move to CA, NY, MN, IL. etc. The majority rules. If you want to legalize infanticide, that?s fine, if the majority there so wishes (And yes they do) thats their States Right.

[Sandpebble]

We need to talk more about Miah Cerrilo and her rights .... we're all close to death at our age now so who gives a xxxx about red flags.

We've already used up all our time failing .... now it's her turn to get it right and I bet she doesn't do it with a gun in her hand

[RED]

We need to talk more about Miah Cerrilo and her rights .... we're all close to death at our age now so who gives a xxxx about red flags.

We've already used up all our time failing .... now it's her turn to get it right and I bet she doesn't do it with a gun in her hand

Total Gibberish! Miah covered herself with blood while 14 heavily armed cops sat down and drank coffee for 45 minutes while children and their teachers bled to death. The exact same thing happened at Columbine. Miah?s rights was thrown under the bus by the low life bully in command that did not give a damn about the kids as long as he and his cops were not endangered. He let kids bleed to death while he was sotting on his azz.

JMHO

[lyman]

We need to talk more about Miah Cerrilo and her rights .... we're all close to death at our age now so who gives a xxxx about red flags.

We've already used up all our time failing .... now it's her turn to get it right and I bet she doesn't do it with a gun in her hand

the shooter was a known issue in the community,

I red elsewhere a while back that he had a juvey record,

had that info been available to NICS or if someone, family, courts, etc, had acted promptly, then he may not have been able to get the firearms he purchased,

Total Gibberish! Miah covered herself with blood while 14 heavily armed cops sat down and drank coffee for 45 minutes while children and their teachers bled to death. The exact same thing happened at Columbine. Miah?s rights was thrown under the bus by the low life bully in command that did not give a damn about the kids as long as he and his cops were not endangered. He let kids bleed to death while he was sotting on his azz.

JMHO

truth

[togor]

We talk about "mental health" but don't want red flags waved when someone starts to lose it?

We talk about background checks but complain if in the course of doing their job they inconvenience us?

There's no such thing in nature as a filter with no back pressure. The stuff that gets through, by design, still has to do some extra work. We get our guns in the end. An object we can easily use the rest of our natural lives, we have to wait an extra few hours or (God forbid) days to get. And we squeal like stuck pigs for the attack on our rights as we call it.

If we're not part of the solution, then we're part of the problem.

[Roadkingtrax]

Feb 28, 2018

"Or, Mike, take the firearms first and then go to court, because that's another system. Because a lot of times, by the time you go to court, it takes so long to go to court, to get the due process procedures. I like taking the guns early. Like in this crazy man's case that just took place in Florida, he had a lot of firearms ? they saw everything ? to go to court would have taken a long time, so you could do exactly what you're saying, but take the guns first, go through due process second."

[lyman]

We talk about "mental health" but don't want red flags waved when someone starts to lose it?

We talk about background checks but complain if in the course of doing their job they inconvenience us?

There's no such thing in nature as a filter with no back pressure. The stuff that gets through, by design, still has to do some extra work. We get our guns in the end. An object we can easily use the rest of our natural lives, we have to wait an extra few hours or (God forbid) days to get. And we squeal like stuck pigs for the attack on our rights as we call it.

If we're not part of the solution, then we're part of the problem.

more word salad,,,,


who complained about NICS checks?
who said they did not want more or better Mental Health reporting?

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Feb 28, 2018

"Or, Mike, take the firearms first and then go to court, because that's another system. Because a lot of times, by the time you go to court, it takes so long to go to court, to get the due process procedures. I like taking the guns early. Like in this crazy man's case that just took place in Florida, he had a lot of firearms ? they saw everything ? to go to court would have taken a long time, so you could do exactly what you're saying, but take the guns first, go through due process second."

and this matters why?

[RED]

Thats right!!! If you see a gang of bullies raping your 12 year old daughter, take them to court.

[Roadkingtrax]

Thats right!!! If you see a gang of bullies raping your 12 year old daughter, take them to court.

Hope she doesn't get pregnant.

[lyman]

We talk about "mental health" but don't want red flags waved when someone starts to lose it?

We talk about background checks but complain if in the course of doing their job they inconvenience us?

There's no such thing in nature as a filter with no back pressure. The stuff that gets through, by design, still has to do some extra work. We get our guns in the end. An object we can easily use the rest of our natural lives, we have to wait an extra few hours or (God forbid) days to get. And we squeal like stuck pigs for the attack on our rights as we call it.

If we're not part of the solution, then we're part of the problem.

the only one that complains about background checks is you,

mental health , as in how we (as a collective) deal with it and report it, needs to be looked at hard,
your filter analogy is a bit tired,

there is no reason the checks cannot be down in the same time they are done now, if the info is in the system accurately

[Allen]

the only one that complains about background checks is you,

He has said in the past that most or all the guns he has bought have been through private sales including at least one from another current forum member here where there is no paperwork.

Can't pass a background check ???

[rayg]

Just to make that one current member sale mentioned made clear, that was an instate sale by me and WI instate sales were allowed by state law between state residents. And the sale was entered in my collector license gun sales book per law so there is paperwork