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  • Vern Humphrey
    Administrator - OFC
    • Aug 2009
    • 15875

    #16
    https://cis.org/Report/Welfare-Use-L...ant-Households

    Welfare Use by Legal and Illegal Immigrant Households
    An Analysis of Medicaid, cash, food, and housing programs
    • An estimated 49 percent of households headed by legal immigrants used one or more welfare programs in 2012, compared to 30 percent of households headed by natives.
    • Households headed by legal immigrants have higher use rates than native households overall and for cash programs (14 percent vs. 10 percent), food programs (36 percent vs. 22 percent), and Medicaid (39 percent vs. 23 percent). Use of housing programs is similar.
    • Legal immigrant households account for three-quarters of all immigrant households accessing one or more welfare programs.
    • Less-educated legal immigrants make extensive use of every type of welfare program, including cash, food, Medicaid, and housing.
    • The overwhelming majority of illegal immigrants have modest levels of education; therefore, the high use of welfare associated with less-educated legal immigrants indicates that legalization would likely increase welfare costs, particularly for cash and housing programs.
    • Restrictions on new legal immigrants? access to welfare have not prevented them from accessing programs at high rates because restrictions often apply to only a modest share of immigrants at any one time, some programs are not restricted, there are numerous exceptions and exemptions, and some provisions are entirely unenforced. Equally important, immigrants, including those illegally in the country, can receive welfare on behalf of their U.S.-born children.

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    • Roadkingtrax
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2010
      • 7835

      #17
      Originally posted by Vern Humphrey



      Welfare Use by Legal and Illegal Immigrant Households
      An Analysis of Medicaid, cash, food, and housing programs
      • An estimated 49 percent of households headed by legal immigrants used one or more welfare programs in 2012, compared to 30 percent of households headed by natives.
      • Households headed by legal immigrants have higher use rates than native households overall and for cash programs (14 percent vs. 10 percent), food programs (36 percent vs. 22 percent), and Medicaid (39 percent vs. 23 percent). Use of housing programs is similar.
      • Legal immigrant households account for three-quarters of all immigrant households accessing one or more welfare programs.
      • Less-educated legal immigrants make extensive use of every type of welfare program, including cash, food, Medicaid, and housing.
      • The overwhelming majority of illegal immigrants have modest levels of education; therefore, the high use of welfare associated with less-educated legal immigrants indicates that legalization would likely increase welfare costs, particularly for cash and housing programs.
      • Restrictions on new legal immigrants? access to welfare have not prevented them from accessing programs at high rates because restrictions often apply to only a modest share of immigrants at any one time, some programs are not restricted, there are numerous exceptions and exemptions, and some provisions are entirely unenforced. Equally important, immigrants, including those illegally in the country, can receive welfare on behalf of their U.S.-born children.
      CIS is known to twist the numbers...a bit. Telling that is the resource you would quote though.




      The Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) is an anti-immigration think tank and a SPLC designated hate group. It favors far lower immigration numbers, and produces analyses to further those views. The CIS was founded by historian Otis L. Graham and eugenicist and white nationalist John Tanton. The organization was founded in 1985 as a spin-off from the Federation for American Immigration Reform, and is one of a number of anti-immigration organizations founded by Tanton, along with FAIR and NumbersUSA.
      Last edited by Roadkingtrax; 07-02-2022, 06:19.
      "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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      • togor
        Banned
        • Nov 2009
        • 17610

        #18
        Originally posted by Roadkingtrax
        CIS is known to twist the numbers...a bit. Telling that is the resource you would quote though.




        The Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) is an anti-immigration think tank and a SPLC designated hate group. It favors far lower immigration numbers, and produces analyses to further those views. The CIS was founded by historian Otis L. Graham and eugenicist and white nationalist John Tanton. The organization was founded in 1985 as a spin-off from the Federation for American Immigration Reform, and is one of a number of anti-immigration organizations founded by Tanton, along with FAIR and NumbersUSA.
        BURN!

        To be honest I'm guessing he didn't know the association going in. But now that it has been pointed out, he's not going to back away. And the eugenics assocation won't stop him for pointing a finger at Planned Parenthood for supposedly having a eugenics connection from its early days.

        In other words,

        Eugenics are bad,

        Except when they aren't.
        Last edited by togor; 07-02-2022, 06:44.

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        • Roadkingtrax
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2010
          • 7835

          #19
          Originally posted by togor
          BURN!

          To be honest I'm guessing he didn't know the association going in. But now that it has been pointed out, he's not going to back away. And the eugenics assocation won't stop him for pointing a finger at Planned Parenthood for supposedly having a eugenics connection from its early days.

          In other words,

          Eugenics are bad,

          Except when they aren't.
          The claim is now that already false information must be refuted. Why waste the energy to dig his hole even deeper? I'll gift him his pride today.
          Last edited by Roadkingtrax; 07-02-2022, 12:53.
          "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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          • lyman
            Administrator - OFC
            • Aug 2009
            • 11294

            #20
            Originally posted by togor
            BURN!

            To be honest I'm guessing he didn't know the association going in. But now that it has been pointed out, he's not going to back away. And the eugenics assocation won't stop him for pointing a finger at Planned Parenthood for supposedly having a eugenics connection from its early days.

            In other words,

            Eugenics are bad,

            Except when they aren't.
            supposedly?

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            • dryheat
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 10587

              #21
              -and I allows I'm goin' to town.- Old cowboy song.

              And I allow I can hate. I know it's against the law but I don't care. Hate, it's a thing. Winners hate losing. I hate losing my country. I don't care if the Afghans have democracy, and I don't care if migrants are miserable sitting tight in Mexico. If they made that long march for nothing, well, maybe they learned a lesson. The Aphgans are as miserable as ever(but they are off screen now) and the migrants will adjust too.
              Except, they won't have too. They will swamp this nation. We are one big happy family. And maybe we are STILL better off than Europe.
              Last edited by dryheat; 07-02-2022, 09:07.
              If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.

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              • Vern Humphrey
                Administrator - OFC
                • Aug 2009
                • 15875

                #22
                Originally posted by lyman
                supposedly?
                It's his imagination at work. He imagines what you think, then attacks you for thinking it.

                Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood, was a Eugenicist. One of her aims was, through birth control and abortion to eliminate African-Americans. Since he's sorta in her camp, then the rest of us have to be even more firmly supporters of eugenics in his imagination.

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