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  • togor
    Banned
    • Nov 2009
    • 17610

    #1

    Criminalize Pregnancy Next

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/01/u...smid=url-share

    Suspicious ending to a pregnancy? Call the womb police. Never mind if the woman is in an emotionally difficult state, needing privacy. Jesus wants answers!!!!

    The old German adage: the appetite comes from eating.
  • dogtag
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 14985

    #2
    To make it fair, abortion restrictions must apply to Men as well as Women.

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    • Roadkingtrax
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2010
      • 7835

      #3
      "Pregnancy Shall Set You Free"
      "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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      • togor
        Banned
        • Nov 2009
        • 17610

        #4
        Originally posted by Roadkingtrax
        "Pregnancy Shall Set You Free"
        Well it's certainly a condition some don't want women to worry their pretty little heads over.

        It's important to remember that the Constitution isn't found in the Bible.

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        • Roadkingtrax
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2010
          • 7835

          #5
          Originally posted by togor
          Well it's certainly a condition some don't want women to worry their pretty little heads over.

          It's important to remember that the Constitution isn't found in the Bible.
          For the same reason you shouldn't find the Koran. The unintended consequences of chipping away at religious separation is that one day, those sleepy little towns in America will have that call to prayer blasted across the prairies, and not the more acceptable church bells.
          "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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          • togor
            Banned
            • Nov 2009
            • 17610

            #6
            Originally posted by Roadkingtrax
            For the same reason you shouldn't find the Koran. The unintended consequences of chipping away at religious separation is that one day, those sleepy little towns in America will have that call to prayer blasted across the prairies, and not the more acceptable church bells.
            Not this court. Their originalism doesn't include the Children of Abraham or Muhammad. But before we all stand up and cheer, there's plenty to dislike in their vision of Fundamentalist Christianity too. These types of Catholics, and I know them well, do not want to assimilate too much.

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            • Roadkingtrax
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2010
              • 7835

              #7
              Originally posted by togor
              Not this court. Their originalism doesn't include the Children of Abraham or Muhammad. But before we all stand up and cheer, there's plenty to dislike in their vision of Fundamentalist Christianity too. These types of Catholics, and I know them well, do not want to assimilate too much.
              Is it just Catholics? Being Catholic, they don't seem to have the same dramatic level of zeal that the evangelicals protestants do. Probably just my experience in a small town and small parish.
              "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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              • togor
                Banned
                • Nov 2009
                • 17610

                #8
                Originally posted by Roadkingtrax
                Is it just Catholics? Being Catholic, they don't seem to have the same dramatic level of zeal that the evangelicals protestants do. Probably just my experience in a small town and small parish.
                It's not you, or me, Biden, or the folks we meet at the grad parties who are the problem. We can live and let live. Even our priests could as well. The one we had as our kids were growing up--fantastic guy.

                It's the Opus Dei crowd, including those on SCOTUS, who are going to cause the problems. To them American concepts of liberty are irreconcilable to their doctrine.

                Church attendance is down nationwide, which is not good news. It's usually the moderates pulling the plug, leaving an increasingly extreme host to tend these institutions.

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                • rayg
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 7444

                  #9
                  Welcome to the Togor and Roadkingtrax forum. Lol! DT snuck one in!
                  Last edited by rayg; 07-02-2022, 07:44.

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                  • Allen
                    Moderator
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 10625

                    #10
                    Originally posted by rayg
                    Welcome to the Togor and Roadkingtrax forum. Lol! DT snuck one in!
                    At least he may have read it. For the most of us we can read the title of the thread and pretty well know what BS lurks beyond.

                    People need to be responsible for their actions, pregnancy being one of them. Now it's just too easy to get an abortion, let someone else pay the bill, use it as a means of birth control and just go out and hunt for the next willing partner.

                    As mentioned before by me and others, if a woman is raped or makes a poor judgement and believes she could be pregnant all she has to do is take the morning after pill and she will never know or have to worry about it. You have to have a working mind to be able to think though. This is too much like having responsibility for some.

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                    • Roadkingtrax
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 7835

                      #11
                      Recreational abortion isn't a thing.

                      Your life might be different in Mississippi Allen, but this is not acceptable:

                      After the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade, it's left some in Ohio to travel outside the state for an abortion. Among them is a 10-year-old girl.


                      A 10-year-old girl was denied an abortion in Ohio after the Supreme Court ruled last week that it was overturning Roe v. Wade, demonstrating the tangible impacts that the high court’s decision is having on patients seeking access to the medical procedure.

                      A child abuse doctor in Ohio contacted Dr. Caitlin Bernard, an obstetrician-gynecologist in Indiana, after receiving a 10-year-old patient who was six weeks and three days pregnant, the Indianapolis Star reported.
                      Last edited by Roadkingtrax; 07-02-2022, 08:18.
                      "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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                      • togor
                        Banned
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 17610

                        #12
                        Meanwhile in Florida, civics curriculum is being retooled to assert that the founders did not intend a separation between Church and State.



                        We could ask, "which Church" but we know the answer to that. The enemy, for now, is seen as increasing secularism in general. Only if Christianity started losing ranks as converts to Islam (seems unlikely at the moment but not impossible) might this court rediscover meaning in the establishment clause.

                        "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

                        In practical terms the point is to keep any one religion from seizing and wielding political power at the expense of others. Seems obvious then that thinning this line invites sectarian problems.

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                        • dogtag
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 14985

                          #13
                          Originally posted by rayg
                          Welcome to the Togor and Roadkingtrax forum. Lol! DT snuck one in!
                          You're right, those two live here. No matter when you start a thread, one
                          of them will reply within seconds followed by the other one seconds later.
                          I bet if I started a thread at three am, they'd pounce immediately.
                          They ain't got no home except here. It's pitiful.

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                          • Vern Humphrey
                            Administrator - OFC
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 15875

                            #14
                            Originally posted by dogtag
                            You're right, those two live here. No matter when you start a thread, one
                            of them will reply within seconds followed by the other one seconds later.
                            I bet if I started a thread at three am, they'd pounce immediately.
                            They ain't got no home except here. It's pitiful.
                            And they'll claim any evidence presented by others is false -- without presenting anything to back that up.

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