Jan 6th protest vs BLM riots

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  • Allen
    Moderator
    • Sep 2009
    • 10583

    #1

    Jan 6th protest vs BLM riots

    We all remember.

    Protest are legal-some say it is a right.

    Riots aren't.
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  • togor
    Banned
    • Nov 2009
    • 17610

    #2
    Alan is arguing that outbreaks of disorderly street protests--which have since abated BTW--make it okay to try to disrupt the peaceful transfer of power at the Federal Executive level. That somehow the stakes in both cases were the same, and if we could live with the one, we ought to be alright with the other.

    Rating this 3 Allens on the 5-Allen scale. For those wondering, stocking the Rio Grande with piranhas rates 4 Allens, and 5 Allens also equals 1 Gun Smoke.
    Last edited by togor; 07-02-2022, 06:40.

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    • Allen
      Moderator
      • Sep 2009
      • 10583

      #3
      And there it is, like clockwork.

      The BS of the left wing anti-gun, anti-America, anti-constitution, pro-murder troll.

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      • Roadkingtrax
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2010
        • 7835

        #4
        Destructive protests on any level are bad, and seek to distract from the message the group is bringing awareness to.
        "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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        • togor
          Banned
          • Nov 2009
          • 17610

          #5
          Originally posted by Allen
          And there it is, like clockwork.

          The BS of the left wing anti-gun, anti-America, anti-constitution, pro-murder troll.
          Allen Score: 4 Allens

          (For commenting on a post that he would admit he doesn't read.)

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          • togor
            Banned
            • Nov 2009
            • 17610

            #6
            Originally posted by Roadkingtrax
            Destructive protests on any level are bad, and seek to distract from the message the group is bringing awareness to.
            True.

            In part because mass demonstrations invite freelancers not connected to the cause, but for whom disorder and anarchy are thrilling. It is the risk that comes with protesting, but sometimes sitting at home quietly enjoying snacks no longer seems like a good option.

            Remember January 6 was about Trump using Capitol chaos to disrupt the peaceful transfer of Federal power. Blow the plan A Constitutional deadlines then see if their Plan B holds up in the uncharted Constitutional waters.

            To equate that day to street protests entirely (and deliberately) misses the point. None of those 2020 protests were about seizing political power. This has to be understood.

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            • Allen
              Moderator
              • Sep 2009
              • 10583

              #7
              Don't know what he's saying but looks like the troll is sure stirred up. Always BS. Always left wing.

              I see when his remarks are duplicated by others that he always wants facts even though he can never provide any himself.

              Well, like I said, we all remember and the picture above states all the facts.

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              • Roadkingtrax
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2010
                • 7835

                #8
                Originally posted by togor
                True.

                In part because mass demonstrations invite freelancers not connected to the cause, but for whom disorder and anarchy are thrilling. It is the risk that comes with protesting, but sometimes sitting at home quietly enjoying snacks no longer seems like a good option.

                Remember January 6 was about Trump using Capitol chaos to disrupt the peaceful transfer of Federal power. Blow the plan A Constitutional deadlines then see if their Plan B holds up in the uncharted Constitutional waters.

                To equate that day to street protests entirely (and deliberately) misses the point. None of those 2020 protests were about seizing political power. This has to be understood.
                He'll have something to celebrate this 4th of July weekend.
                "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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                • Vern Humphrey
                  Administrator - OFC
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 15875

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Allen
                  Don't know what he's saying but looks like the troll is sure stirred up. Always BS. Always left wing.

                  I see when his remarks are duplicated by others that he always wants facts even though he can never provide any himself.

                  Well, like I said, we all remember and the picture above states all the facts.
                  Note how when I provided facts refuting his claim about illegal aliens not using welfare and similar taxpayer-funded programs he did NOT offer any counter evidence -- he only offered ad hominem remarks.

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                  • togor
                    Banned
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 17610

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
                    Note how when I provided facts refuting his claim about illegal aliens not using welfare and similar taxpayer-funded programs he did NOT offer any counter evidence -- he only offered ad hominem remarks.
                    You offered a slant from an anti-immigration group. Naturally you think that ought to be the last word on it and no rebuttal is possible.

                    Fact is, US business and agriculture have slots where illegals easily fit into the work force. If you didn't know this, you're the only one in the country who didn't.

                    Regarding riots....

                    Mobs do what they do. Sometimes more of it, sometimes less. Ask yourself though about any riot, who is outside the mob, the riot, looking to gain from it. Sometimes it's a TV talking head using it to raise his own profile.

                    The mob at the Capitol was bad. But the people in the WH trying to use the riot for their gain was far far worse.

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                    • lyman
                      Administrator - OFC
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 11269

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Roadkingtrax
                      Destructive protests on any level are bad, and seek to distract from the message the group is bringing awareness to.
                      this,


                      however the chart does have some truth to it,


                      watched a vid the other day, showing Cap Police welcoming folks in a side door, as in come on in and do whatever,,,

                      seemed odd for the amount of crime that the media wants us to believe happened

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                      Originally posted by Allen
                      Don't know what he's saying but looks like the troll is sure stirred up. Always BS. Always left wing.

                      I see when his remarks are duplicated by others that he always wants facts even though he can never provide any himself.

                      Well, like I said, we all remember and the picture above states all the facts.
                      he is just being a troll,

                      he has failed miserably at moderating,, so back to the same ole same ole,

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                      • Allen
                        Moderator
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 10583

                        #12
                        Originally posted by lyman
                        watched a vid the other day, showing Cap Police welcoming folks in a side door, as in come on in and do whatever,,,

                        seemed odd for the amount of crime that the media wants us to believe happened
                        I'm sure he's aware of it but just so he can't deny it here it is.



                        Now, compare this to murdering, looting and throwing bricks through windows like the BLM democrats.

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                        • Mark in Ottawa
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 1744

                          #13
                          A bad act by one group does not legitimize a bad act by another group.

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                          • Vern Humphrey
                            Administrator - OFC
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 15875

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Mark in Ottawa
                            A bad act by one group does not legitimize a bad act by another group.
                            Perfectly true. Conservatives used to have more manners -- after a demonstration, they cleaned up the trash.

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                            • togor
                              Banned
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 17610

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
                              Perfectly true. Conservatives used to have more manners -- after a demonstration, they cleaned up the trash.
                              Accidental truth telling?

                              No matter. Liz Cheney, recognizable to me as a Conservative of the Old School, is trying to do just that--clean up the trash that has infected the Republican party. If you care about the party half as much as she does you'd be giving her all the covering fire you could muster, and not leaving it to others.

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