They're going to Green Energy us to death ...

[dogtag]

Nations across the Globe that are dumping fossil fuels including Fertilizer
and replacing them with green energy are going to wonder what hit them
when Farmers quit farming and food no longer appears on the shelves.
Food grows with the help of water and fertilizer not windmills.
Watch out for the Pitchforks wielded by hungry peasants.
Maybe when most of the world's population has starved to death, which
with luck will include all the Green activists, we'll come to our senses.
Then all we'll have to worry about will be the never ending Covid which
will kill off all those who survived the Green death.

[togor]

Huh?

[dogtag]

Huh?

Sorry, too many words for you ? Take an Aspirin, it may help.

[Vern Humphrey]

Please don't advise him to self-medicate.

[togor]

Please don't advise him to self-medicate.

I hear they've come up with a pill for passive-aggressiveness, but they can't persuade anyone suffering from that condition to take it. So they're going to withhold it from the market and see what that does for demand.

[lyman]

I hear they've come up with a pill for passive-aggressiveness, but they can't persuade anyone suffering from that condition to take it. So they're going to withhold it from the market and see what that does for demand.

didn't you beta test it?

[dryheat]

Does it taste good?

[Major Tom]

Back to dogtag's post. It is a fact that those nations that went 'green' are suffering food shortages, energy problems and transportation problems. Ghana is one of those and so is the Nethernlands to name 2! Doing away with fossil fuels will turn any country into a 3rd world poverty country. 99% of the products we are all taking for granted are made, at least partly, by fossil fuels. When a reporter asked Biden how are we to power electric vehicles he said "Just plug it in". A new review of Ford's F-150 all electric truck pulling a moderate sized camper trailer, running the AC and fully charged battery went 80 miles! 80 MILES!

[Roadkingtrax]

Back to dogtag's post. It is a fact that those nations that went 'green' are suffering food shortages, energy problems and transportation problems. Ghana is one of those and so is the Nethernlands to name 2! Doing away with fossil fuels will turn any country into a 3rd world poverty country. 99% of the products we are all taking for granted are made, at least partly, by fossil fuels. When a reporter asked Biden how are we to power electric vehicles he said "Just plug it in". A new review of Ford's F-150 all electric truck pulling a moderate sized camper trailer, running the AC and fully charged battery went 80 miles! 80 MILES!

Please make sure you tell your state officials and agricultural lobbyists that E85 is a terrible green energy based fuel.

[togor]

Please make sure you tell your state officials and agricultural lobbyists that E85 is a terrible green energy based fuel.

Perhaps a point of universal agreement here, that turning food into fuel is a bad move. Especially when the phosphorus and potassium in the fertilizer have to be mined overseas.

[dryheat]

My state is getting on board with electric cars and trucks. Our dept. of transportation is discussing putting EV charging stations here so we will be connected to NM and CA. I think they are supposed to be about fifty miles apart. Within five miles of I-10 and user friendly. My question- it takes about five minutes to put gas in a tank, how long does it take to charge up a vehicle? Every fifty miles. I know nothing about electric vehicles but I know Americans are impatient. And time is money.

[togor]

My state is getting on board with electric cars and trucks. Our dept. of transportation is discussing putting EV charging stations here so we will be connected to NM and CA. I think they are supposed to be about fifty miles apart. Within five miles of I-10 and user friendly. My question- it takes about five minutes to put gas in a tank, how long does it take to charge up a vehicle? Every fifty miles. I know nothing about electric vehicles but I know Americans are impatient. And time is money.

I know a guy who took his Tesla on a family road trip from Milwaukee to the UP. He says they are dropping those charging stations in all over the place now. Modular design, they come off the trucks from NY and get installed in a jiffy.

UP (Upper Peninsula of Michigan for non-midwesterners) has some pretty lonely stretches, but he made it work. He said there was zero trouble getting a stall whenever he wanted at the charger in whatever town he was staying in.

He's bullish on the technology and has learned to live with what he frankly admits is a different pace for longer trips. But he does make those trips, with family, and seems not the worse for it. And the point is, the EV industry is putting money into charging, just as the auto and petroleum industries worked together a century+ ago to make sure that gas was available where needed. Horses of course, could refuel almost anywhere! And the railroad system carried the coal from the mines to the trainyards.

My #1 knock on the technology is the complete lack of anonymity to it. If your Tesla has bars it apparently is talking to the mother ship. It's the kind of blanket surveillance that an East German or Soviet government official could only dream about.

[dryheat]

So, it wouldn't make a good getaway car.

[togor]

So, it wouldn't make a good getaway car.

Well they're pretty quiet. And the driving sensors don't necessarily need light to work.

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Nations across the Globe that are dumping fossil fuels including Fertilizer
and replacing them with green energy are going to wonder what hit them
when Farmers quit farming and food no longer appears on the shelves.
Food grows with the help of water and fertilizer not windmills.
Watch out for the Pitchforks wielded by hungry peasants.
Maybe when most of the world's population has starved to death, which
with luck will include all the Green activists, we'll come to our senses.
Then all we'll have to worry about will be the never ending Covid which
will kill off all those who survived the Green death.

DT ever here of John Boyd? The OODA loop? RED might have, as a Naval Aviator.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Boyd_(military_strategist)

Boyd's theories hold that the key to success is an ability to adapt to change, not to circumstances as they currently are.

Safe to say Boyd would not be a big MAGA fan.

[Major Tom]

Please make sure you tell your state officials and agricultural lobbyists that E85 is a terrible green energy based fuel.

E85 gas, plants that make it are give off horrible emissions.