The heat we are experiencing?

[RED]

Is caused by man made usage of carbon fuels. It has NEVER, been so hot!

Hair spray, cattle farts and SUVs are the reason?

FYI:

Quote: The killer U.S. heat wave of 1936 spread as far north as Canada, led to the heat-related deaths of an estimated 5,000 people, sent thermometers to a record 121 degrees Fahrenheit in Steele, N.D., and made that July the warmest month ever recorded in the United States.

[Roadkingtrax]

Weather vs Red

Weather refers to short term atmospheric conditions while climate is the weather of a specific region averaged over a long period of time. Climate change refers to long-term changes.

[dryheat]

Thank you miss trax
Your ridiculous little opinion has been noted; A little paper airplane goes flying.(on the side of a beer snuggy). Accuracy: B plus.
So, it's been hot before. Any chance it could get hot again? I'd say yes. Could it get hotter? It's debatable. Will the heat kill us all? I'd say no (something else will kill most of us).
Do man made CO2's make it worse? I don't think it helps and it looks icky. Just a little something to balance out the paragraph.

[RED]

Weather vs Red

Weather refers to short term atmospheric conditions while climate is the weather of a specific region averaged over a long period of time. Climate change refers to long-term changes.

In your vocabulary long term is 10 days. While in reality climate is measured by eras and thousands or millions of years. You do not have a clue what it takes for a actual climate change. Climate change takes thousands of years. You and your ilk claim that carbon fuels are causing climate change and the truth is we will not know if that is true or not until a thousand years or more in the future.

[togor]

RED.

You take any engineering classes while in WSO school? Did they ever teach you guys about "forcing functions"?

Your "thousands of years" speaks to the natural response of the climate system. But any system can be forced and that's what we're doing by transferring all of this carbon from the crust to the atmosphere in the blink of a geological eye.

A pendulum in a grandfather clock has a natural rate at which it will swing. Or, someone can grab it and jerk it back and forth in a haphazard way. In both cases the hands of the clock will move, but one is forced.

[Major Tom]

Mean while, politicians are flying every where and dumping carbon by the tons into the atmosphere! Joe flies to Delaware every weekend. Ethanol plants are polluting the air in the name of making cleaner fuel. The 'green deal' democrats are not concerned about climate, just worried about getting re-elected to continue their 'power' over the less fortunate.

[Roadkingtrax]

In your vocabulary long term is 10 days. While in reality climate is measured by eras and thousands or millions of years. You do not have a clue what it takes for a actual climate change. Climate change takes thousands of years. You and your ilk claim that carbon fuels are causing climate change and the truth is we will not know if that is true or not until a thousand years or more in the future.

If you've been alive that long, it explains your pessimistic attitude.

[RED]

You are the pissimistic one. You are the one saying humans will all be dead if we do not get rid of fossil fuels in the next 24 minutes. And no togot, Mother Nature cannot be forced no matter how strong you claim to be. It is too hot today and will be too cold some day and you cannot change that. Go peddle your horsecrap somewhere else.🤮

[Allen]

I remember back in the late 60's to early 70's, the banks here were putting up all those big signs with digital read-outs for temp, date and time. I remember several times during the hottest days seeing 102---104 temps and verified by the local news/weather agencies.

Now, when it reaches 97-99 you would think it's Hiroshima all over again with all the panic.

Sure, it's hot, but it was then too, even more so.

[togor]

You are the pissimistic one. You are the one saying humans will all be dead if we do not get rid of fossil fuels in the next 24 minutes. And no togot, Mother Nature cannot be forced no matter how strong you claim to be. It is too hot today and will be too cold some day and you cannot change that. Go peddle your horsecrap somewhere else.��

RED:

You're in my wheelhouse. Any physical system can have a forcing function applied to it and see a response. Size matters only so far as the limitations of observation. And we can most certainly measure the changes in atmospheric CO2.

Beat your hasty, contemptuous retreat now.

[Rick]

If the climate is changing this fast why did Obama and Biden spend millions on property that should have been under water in 2000 The thing I've noticed about liberals is they say one thing then do another. Like wear a mask then they go out with friends to a restaurant with no mask, one or two had their hair done maskless, shut your state down but vacation in Florida.

Judge a man by his actions not by his words.


I was a liberal. I believed in free speech, lower taxes, and that under the law we were all equal. Now the liberals use the power of government to silence their political opposition.

In short when you are young and not a liberal you do not have a heart. When you are old and not conservative you do not have a brain.

[Allen]

If the climate is changing this fast why did Obama and Biden spend millions on property that should have been under water in 2000

I've asked this same question many times here (I included Al Gore too).

There's never an answer, just a word salad, or a reply to someone else's reply in a feeble attempt to take the attention off of my question.

W/O the money they've made off of the climate control BS they probably couldn't have afforded their waterfront properties in the first place.

Remember, the earth was once completely covered by water (like Mars). There are shell fossils found most everywhere, even in the deserts we have now.

I live 8 to 10 miles from the coast line. The same houses, beaches and piers that were there when I was a kid are still there. There's no change in the water levels.

[dryheat]

A lot of word salad because there's ton and tons of science involved. I read a little about it and believe me, it's complicated. There are theories that say this and there are theories that say that. Which is to be expected I suppose. Just this morning some guy stated flat out, we need to stop CO2 emissions today if we want to stop the temperature from rising. But you will eliminate some green house gasses that actually help cool the planet. If all emissions were stopped, does it immediately start cooling down? There can be decades of lag in what happens after X is done. Me being kind of a storm chaser. I think it's all kind of interesting and I have a brand new air conditioner.

[togor]

....In short when you are young and not a liberal you do not have a heart. When you are old and not conservative you do not have a brain.

Paraphrasing Winston Churchill's retort when dinged for switching parties yet again, back to the Tories, in his political career. A bit of clever self-justification by ol' Winston, not meant to be taken literally.

He started out a Tory like his father, Randolph, MP, then switched to the Liberal party over the free trade issue. He switched back in the mid 20's when Stanley Baldwin offered him Exchequer.

If hypocrisy is your thing, I guarantee you can find it in any direction that you look.

Worth pointing out that the physics of atmospheric carbon are incapable of caring how any individual human, rich or poor, places their bets. And one could argue that if Obama was as big an idiot as they claim, then a bad buy of oceanfront property is just the sort of thing he might do. Or maybe he just plans on owning it for 10 years or so. Or maybe his place has a nice slope to the sea and a few feet doesn't bother him.

[lyman]

or maybe someone bought it for him,