How many have refused the vaxx?

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  • blackhawknj
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2011
    • 3754

    #1

    How many have refused the vaxx?

    This is not asked to get specifics or confessions, rather as a general question. I suspect an awful lot, there are all those who have been purged from the military, people with religious objections, people who consider their health matters to be private, etc.
  • bruce
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 3759

    #2
    Got vaccinated ASAP. Got boosters. Will continue to do so. Did catch covid. Mild symptoms. Thankful. 33 yr. old FB coach at HS died after 5 mo. of ICU. No idea how much that cost his family. Would not willingly put my family through such a thing. No different than vaccinating for blood poisoning, etc. By the way, son of one of my church members had been vaccinated for blood poisoning, but failed to continue with routine booster shots. Got a rusty nail in his left forearm. BP set in. Ended up amputation of forearm. Hard to do manual labor w/ left forearm missing. Wish he'd gotten his booster shot. Figure its the same with covid. Sincerely. bruce.
    " Unlike most conservatives, libs have no problem exploiting dead children and dancing on their graves."

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    • Allen
      Moderator
      • Sep 2009
      • 10580

      #3
      Read where NYC fired another 850 teachers last week for refusing mandatory shots.

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      • RED
        Very Senior Member - OFC
        • Aug 2009
        • 11689

        #4
        The real question should be how many people have died that caught the disease from someone who refused to get vaxxed. The number is lots of folks, hundreds of thousands. The other question is how many died because they were vaxxed and the vaccine was why they died. The answer is very few.

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        • Allen
          Moderator
          • Sep 2009
          • 10580

          #5
          Originally posted by RED
          The real question should be how many people have died that caught the disease from someone who refused to get vaxxed. The number is lots of folks, hundreds of thousands. The other question is how many died because they were vaxxed and the vaccine was why they died. The answer is very few.
          Nobody knows and there's no way to prove it either way. It's pure speculation and hyped (big time) by the news media.

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          • bruce
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2009
            • 3759

            #6
            Once upon a time Typhoid Mary had ... you guessed it ... typhus. It didn't kill her ... but she certainly ended up transmitting it to lots of other people, who died. She of course thought it was an injustice that she could not just go around living her life while spreading typhus. Guess what she thought didn't count much when weighed against all the folks she put at risk ... and the folks who died because of her. Same with covid. Lock people with the disease in their homes. Provide appropriate care and if needed, hospitalization. No different than other deadly contagious diseases. Would very rapidly lead to the disease being reduced in its severity to the general public. JMHO. Sincerely. bruce.
            " Unlike most conservatives, libs have no problem exploiting dead children and dancing on their graves."

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            • dogtag
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 14985

              #7
              My Son and I have not vaxed, Neither of us have had the Covid.
              My Son's Wife is a Nurse, she had the vax then got the Covid.
              People die from the vax more than the Covid - except those who
              are both old and already sick. Those died early on.

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              • RED
                Very Senior Member - OFC
                • Aug 2009
                • 11689

                #8
                Originally posted by dogtag
                My Son and I have not vaxed, Neither of us have had the Covid.
                My Son's Wife is a Nurse, she had the vax then got the Covid.
                People die from the vax more than the Covid - except those who
                are both old and already sick. Those died early on.

                That needs some kind of proof. No body has died just because they were vaxxed. They already had a life threatening disease (cancer, HIV, heart disease, drug addiction, or etc.)

                Show me the proof. A neighbor and his wife refused the vax and they both died and their daughter almost did. Show me where over a million people in the US died just because they were vaxxed.

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                • Allen
                  Moderator
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 10580

                  #9
                  People believe what they want to believe AND HAVE THAT RIGHT.

                  Would your neighbor have died if he got the vax? No one knows. Has anyone been saved because they were vaxed? No one knows. Has anyone died because they didn't get the vax/would the vax have saved them? No one knows. Do the un-vaxed spread the virus to those that are vaxed or do the vaxed spread it to those who haven't had the shot? No one knows. People have died from the vax though despite all the cover up.

                  As far as proof of the vax causing deaths there are many write up's on it. Most of them dance around through and say it can't be proved even though most of these people were doing fine till they took the jab. There were daily stories on it---all silenced now. Wonder why?

                  People dying from the vax that already had life threatening diseases? That's a new one. It's the other way around where covid is the blame for a death while a person already had life threatening problems. I've even seen that locally where a person had been sick for years and got covid. Guess what was said he died from?

                  Europe, where the news isn't so liberal controlled has produced a lot of complaints about all 4 of the vaccines (which are not actual vaccines).

                  As said before, I got the first jab. All was fine till 4 days later, then it hit me like a ton of bricks causing severe kidney pain and complications, just like the Europeans had warned. I recovered but what lasting damage has been done to me and others?

                  It doesn't agree with everyone and I am living proof of that.

                  I will call any pro-vax "proof" as misinformation, the same label the democrats state about anti-vax "proof."

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                  • blackhawknj
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2011
                    • 3754

                    #10
                    I note the word "co-morbidity" has disappeared-all the people-Colin Powell, e.g. who were reported to have "died from" Covid, then it was revealed they had pre-existing serious health problems, so they died WITH Covid but not BECAUSE of it. One friend said he had a cousin who succumbed to it-65, overweight, diabetic.

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                    • Major Tom
                      Very Senior Member - OFC
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 6181

                      #11
                      A lot of people who got pneumonia were told they had covid! Symptoms are similar!

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                      • Mark in Ottawa
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 1744

                        #12
                        I think that I have posted this stat before but perhaps it needs repeating. The WHO estimates that in its first year of use, the COVID vaccination saved 20 million lives worldwide

                        Vaccination is not perfect and even if you are vaccinated, you can still get and die from COVID. It does however push the odds of both avoidance and survival far in your favour if you are vaccinated. Generally, being vaccinated will significantly reduce the effects of COVID on you compared to what happens if you get COVID and are not vaccinated

                        My wife and I have now been vaccinated / boosted five times. Neither of us had any ill effects except for a slightly sore arm for a day or so. Our last booster was the Moderna bivalent vax that is supposed to provide protection against both the older COVID variant and the omicron variant.

                        Obviously I would recommend getting vaccinated.

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                        • RED
                          Very Senior Member - OFC
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 11689

                          #13
                          All I know is that At least 262,908,216 people or 79% of the USA population have received at least one dose.

                          Overall, 224,113,439 people or 68% of the population are considered fully vaccinated.

                          Additionally, 108,806,974 people or 33% of the population have received a booster dose.

                          If the vaccine is is that toxic, how come there has not been tens of thosands of Americans dropping dead every day?
                          Last edited by RED; 10-06-2022, 02:19.

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                          • Allen
                            Moderator
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 10580

                            #14
                            Originally posted by RED
                            If the vaccine is is that toxic, how come there has not been tens of thosands of Americans dropping dead every day?
                            How do you know they haven't?????

                            It's not like there're going to publicize it or something. I myself no doubt came close. My wife and daughter had no problems. Everyone's DNA is different.

                            As stated many times before, these aren't actual vaccines made of dead virus cells. They are unproven, untested (except by us guinea pigs), quick to the market chemicals.

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                            • RED
                              Very Senior Member - OFC
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 11689

                              #15
                              Do you actually believe tens of thousands of Americans are dying and nobody has noticed? Nobody has noticed that the funeral homes are over filled, hospitals are overflowed and not able to treat new cases, the grocery store sales has plummeted because millions of fewer citizens have stopped eating?

                              Remember that over 220,000,000 have taken at least two shots or more. If just 1% of them have died thats 2,200,000, twice the number that died from COVID!
                              Last edited by RED; 10-06-2022, 11:18.

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