You knew it was coming

[dryheat]

It's a trail of breadcrumbs. And there might be something to it. But you can't draw a straight line from one event to another. What am I talking about?

OK, I know there's a lot going on but take a moment to think about it. What's in the headlines for the next day or so?

Alright; Ian proves that the climate is changing.
Me: Yes, the climate is changing.
The News: There's the proof (well, some of the news).
Whose fault its it: The conservatives. Republicans. Something nuts would say.
Whose fault is it really: nobody's fault. Don't burn witches when you have no knowledge. But knowledge without brains is trouble. Which means you never burn witches.

But, there are numbers (if they aren't lying to us, and I don't think they are) that show it's warmer. The ocean is deeper (melting ice) and the water is rising (warm stuff gets bigger, ya, know like things do). Hurricanes get muscular in warm water and kick arouond people on the beach.

One more thing: There's something in the bible about building your house on sand. The arabs work it, but Florida? That's asking for trouble. It's a swamp with lots of sand piled on it. The dunes have been there for a million yrs. Florida? eh, about a hundred or so.

Almost forgot; I'm thinking you can expect gasoline prices to go up. 'Let's wring as much as we can out of this'.

"There is a storm coming senora". "Yes, I know". -Terminator. I love that line. And I love Hamilton. Sleep tight.

[Art]

Three things.

1. The world has gotten a bit warmer in the past 100 years. It has been a lot warmer in the distant past as in no ice caps and huge inland seas and a lot colder in the not too distant geologic past as in ice caps covering all of Canada and parts of the midwestern United States. Conifers (pine trees) in the south are there today because of the ice ages.

2. Not all consequences are negative. I recently read a NOAA report on "Global Greening" as a result of increased co2. Yes plants love the stuff, and large areas, some in formerly arid areas are greening up nicely and this is not on a small scale and is beneficial it various ways including a mitigating effect on global temperature rise, in increase in land available to agriculture and an increase in global moisture.

3. Weather is not climate. Hurricanes are a particularly bad predictor since we have less than 75 years of data that is any thing like accurate on the number of storms and their intensity.

Also. I'll take the global climate alarmists a lot more seriously when some of their dire predictions actually start to occur. The Maldives are still above water. 30 years ago the prediction was they'd be sunk by now. Well when you're wrong just move the date back. Now the prediction is the Maldives will be mostly under water in 50 years. Don't think I'll be around to fact check that one.

[Major Tom]

Mankind started to record things thousands of years ago, there have been famines, droughts, flooding, pandemics, big storms, etc. Nothing is new weather wise and the planet is ever changing land masses. Glaciers have come as far south as northern Missouri. the land between our mountain ranges was once a big sea. There was vegetation at the south pole, etc. For mankind to try and change all that happening again is a total waste of money and energy.

[dryheat]

I'll take the global climate alarmists a lot more seriously when some of their dire predictions actually start to occur.

Your not paying attention. If you want cataclysmic events today(oh,lets see, I'm busy on Thursday...
I just read that Florida will be half gone by 2070. None of us will be around for that.
Sandbags aren't going to stop it. I don't think anything will prevent it. I don't lose any sleep over it. Actually, I'd like to be around for it, but that's doubtful. I'll probably sleep late and miss the whole darn thing.

[Art]

I'll take the global climate alarmists a lot more seriously when some of their dire predictions actually start to occur.

Your not paying attention. If you want cataclysmic events today(oh,lets see, I'm busy on Thursday...
I just read that Florida will be half gone by 2070. None of us will be around for that.
Sandbags aren't going to stop it. I don't think anything will prevent it. I don't lose any sleep over it. Actually, I'd like to be around for it, but that's doubtful. I'll probably sleep late and miss the whole darn thing.

Maybe Florida will be half under water in 2070, maybe it won't. What I'm saying, and its an incontravertable fact, is that the prediction track record for the past 50 years has been very poor indeed.

Major Tom, its true things were recorded long ago, meteorologically speaking, but it wasn't predictive. Two examples from my home state. In 1865 virtually every building in my home town of Orange was blown off the map (196 out of 200 houses completely destroyed) by a gigantic hurricane. My Orange ancestors ranch was 20 miles out of town and every building was completely destroyed except for the original log cabin everyone retreated into. The destruction was so complete that most local records prior to 1865 are gone. Orange was lucky. Two other towns were destroyed and never rebuilt. Nobody knew the hurricane existed until it hit and nobody has a category number except to know it was a monster. The 1865 Atlantic hurricane season shows three storms . Two made landfall the other was run into by by a ship. I betcha there were more than three hurricanes in 1865. The great 1900 Cat.4 storm that hit Galveston; at that time the "scientific" knowledge was that Atlantic storms didn't enter the Gulf. They knew a hurricane hit the eastern islands "Cuba etc" but didn't worry too much in Galveston and had no idea there was even a hurricane in the Gulf until it was too late. Until the mid 20th century hurricanes blew up and dissipated often without anyone knowing unless a ship ran into the middle of it it or it made landfall. The first satellite mapped Hurricane was Audrey in 1957 which struck down between 400 and 500 people in southeast Texas and southwest Louisiana. I was only 9, but remember that one well, the eye went right over my grandma's house. I listened to trees snapping in her upstairs bedroom.

[Allen]

The climate control activist greta thunberg is now 19. She began her career as an "expert" at the age of 16. Her net worth now is estimated at over $1M and possibly up to $10M.

Not bad money for spreading manure.

[Art]

The climate control activist greta thunberg is now 19. She began her career as an "expert" at the age of 16. Her net worth now is estimated at over $1M and possibly up to $10M.

Not bad money for spreading manure.

Don't forget journalism major Al Gore who busted out of grad school twice or that other master of Climatology John Kerry 2.5 GPA Political Science.

[one shot]

52 degrees and partly sunny here today lets cut some firewood the climate will soon change.

[sid]

About 1 month ago NASA said that CLIMATE CHANGE is caused by small variations in the earth's rotation around the sun. They also added that it has nothing to do with burning fossil fuels or driving SUV's.

[dryheat]

About 1 month ago NASA said that CLIMATE CHANGE is caused by small variations in the earth's rotation around the sun. They also added that it has nothing to do with burning fossil fuels or driving SUV's.

Which I believe is true. The actions by stars and gravitational pull are huge when they happen every million or so years. We have no control over it. But stinking the place up with smoke ect. doesn't help. But petroleum, oil, coal are a big part of our comfortable existance too. There's probably twenty things sitting on your desk right in front you this minute that are made from fossil fuel.

[dogtag]

People feel its a challenge to live in dangerous places like floodplains. on beaches,
near volcanoes and fault lines. When they get flooded, tsunamied, earthwquaked
or incinerated they just nonchalantly rebuild in the same place.
Gotta love their faith that it won't happen again, but Mother Nature is like gravity,
challenge either and you're gonna lose.

[dryheat]

Florida is a good example. I saw a satellite rendition of FL from many years ago til present. Sort of a time-lapse. The growth along the west coast is amazing. I noticed a lot of the places that got 10' ft. of water were old style mobile homes. Folks who live in cheap contruction and probably live on land that they could afford. That happens a lot.