A different look at the Ukraine war.

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  • RED
    Very Senior Member - OFC
    • Aug 2009
    • 11689

    #1

    A different look at the Ukraine war.

    The linked article is huge, very long, and complicated. But, it is real, and if you have the gonads to read it in depth you will come away with a new view. I have believed from the beginning there is more going on than what we ate hearing from the propaganda that we are getting from our main stream news.

    Read it all

    https://www.grid.news/story/global/2...ian-Classmates
  • Major Tom
    Very Senior Member - OFC
    • Aug 2009
    • 6181

    #2
    This is Biden's war!! The cost to the tax payer is enormous! Ukraine has nothing of interest to us so why dump billions into Zewlinsky pockets? The flow of money to Ukraine will end in January 2023!

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    • Vern Humphrey
      Administrator - OFC
      • Aug 2009
      • 15875

      #3
      It is truly Biden's war in the sense that he could have prevented it. But Russia cannot be allowed to gobble up other countries.

      Sweden and Finland have joined NATO because of this war -- they are Russia's neighbors, and they know her.

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      • Allen
        Moderator
        • Sep 2009
        • 10580

        #4
        Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
        But Russia cannot be allowed to gobble up other countries.
        Don't forget China is doing the same thing.

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        • Vern Humphrey
          Administrator - OFC
          • Aug 2009
          • 15875

          #5
          Originally posted by Allen
          Don't forget China is doing the same thing.
          But right now, there's no shooting going on in that part of the world.

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          • Allen
            Moderator
            • Sep 2009
            • 10580

            #6
            Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
            But right now, there's no shooting going on in that part of the world.
            That's not stopping them though.

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            • Vern Humphrey
              Administrator - OFC
              • Aug 2009
              • 15875

              #7
              Originally posted by Allen
              That's not stopping them though.
              But they're not starting any shooting, either.

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              • dogtag
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 14985

                #8
                For every Ukrainian killed, Zelensky probably banked a million dollars.

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                • Allen
                  Moderator
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 10580

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
                  But they're not starting any shooting, either.
                  So you think Taiwan is going to welcome them to take over their country? China is playing daily war games with them, enough so that the U.S. and Canada have positioned warships in the area.

                  They are daring someone to fire the first round while they take over territories. Doesn't matter that no war has started yet. It's in the making and could be stopped in advance, like the Russian/Ukraine war.

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                  • Vern Humphrey
                    Administrator - OFC
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 15875

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Allen
                    So you think Taiwan is going to welcome them to take over their country? China is playing daily war games with them, enough so that the U.S. and Canada have positioned warships in the area.

                    They are daring someone to fire the first round while they take over territories. Doesn't matter that no war has started yet. It's in the making and could be stopped in advance, like the Russian/Ukraine war.
                    I said, "they're not starting any shooting, either."

                    For all the bluster and posturing, the Chinese are not shooting. And depending on the way Russia's invasion of the Ukraine turns out, they probably won't -- if the Ukraine wins, that will cool the Chinese ardor.

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                    • Allen
                      Moderator
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 10580

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
                      if the Ukraine wins, that will cool the Chinese ardor.
                      Changing the topic a little, I've wondered if the Ukraine wins and Russia is weakened enough would China try to overtake Russia while they could. I know that would be their problem and little concern for us EXCEPT it would really give the Chinese a chance to further overpopulate and become an unstoppable power.

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                      • Vern Humphrey
                        Administrator - OFC
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 15875

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Allen
                        Changing the topic a little, I've wondered if the Ukraine wins and Russia is weakened enough would China try to overtake Russia while they could. I know that would be their problem and little concern for us EXCEPT it would really give the Chinese a chance to further overpopulate and become an unstoppable power.
                        I doubt it -- China's ambitions are along the seacoast and adjoining islands, not in Siberia.

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                        • Allen
                          Moderator
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 10580

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
                          I doubt it -- China's ambitions are along the seacoast and adjoining islands, not in Siberia.
                          Hope you're right but Russia has a lot of coast and a lot of natural resources. They also border Russia somewhat so an easy part there.

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                          • rayg
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 7444

                            #14
                            Originally posted by dogtag
                            For every Ukrainian killed, Zelensky probably banked a million dollars.
                            Please explain that!

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                            • dogtag
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 14985

                              #15
                              Originally posted by rayg
                              Please explain that!
                              Oh dear, I slandered your hero.

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