Voting machine problems - Well, what a surprise ..

[dogtag]

These things need to be banned.
France banned them because it was obvious they were susceptible to fraud.
Democrats will fight tooth and nail to keep them because without them
they might well fade into oblivion.

https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/el...y-voting-sites

[dryheat]

Arizona is such a subject anymore. This used to be a nice quiet place. When we got freeways, the Californians felt at home.

[Mark in Ottawa]

Here in Canada, at the federal level, we still use paper ballots. Having had my arm twisted a few years ago to be a "deputy returning officer" at a polling station, I found that the process was pretty fool proof. After the polls closed, my poll clerk and I, in front of scrutineers from each party opened the ballot box and counted the votes. The scrutineers were allowed to check the voters records to confirm the number of voters and to confirm both the count and that the the number of votes equaled the number of voters. The scrutineers could not at any time touch either the ballots or the ballot box. It took less than an hour to count the votes and informally report the result. The biggest pain was going to the Returning Officer's headquarters to formally return the votes and the boxes. There was a huge lineup and we didn't get home till after 2:00 am.

The lesson of course is that paper ballots don't break down and the presence of the scrutineers ensures that everything is above board. By the way, for those not familiar with the word scrutineer, it is a person appointed by each party to observe the whole voting process at a given polling station. My limited experience is that they mostly only turn up near the end of the voting period and stay for the count

[Allen]

Here in Canada, at the federal level, we still use paper ballots. Having had my arm twisted a few years ago to be a "deputy returning officer" at a polling station, I found that the process was pretty fool proof. After the polls closed, my poll clerk and I, in front of scrutineers from each party opened the ballot box and counted the votes. The scrutineers were allowed to check the voters records to confirm the number of voters and to confirm both the count and that the the number of votes equaled the number of voters. The scrutineers could not at any time touch either the ballots or the ballot box. It took less than an hour to count the votes and informally report the result. The biggest pain was going to the Returning Officer's headquarters to formally return the votes and the boxes. There was a huge lineup and we didn't get home till after 2:00 am.

The lesson of course is that paper ballots don't break down and the presence of the scrutineers ensures that everything is above board. By the way, for those not familiar with the word scrutineer, it is a person appointed by each party to observe the whole voting process at a given polling station. My limited experience is that they mostly only turn up near the end of the voting period and stay for the count

The more people involved, the more "hands on" processing, the less likely of a miscount or fraud.

As far as the extra time involved, after some elections are contested and a re-count happens the time may equal out.

We still use paper ballots here. When filled out they are jabbed into a counting machine (I call them paper shredders). I obviously don't trust these machines.

[barretcreek]

One of complaints is not being allowed to compare the number of ballots cast with how many people voted and are they eligible.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/11/09/big-picture-2020-midterm-elections-highlights-distinct-difference-between-ballots-and-votes/#more-239592

[Major Tom]

In S.E. Iowa, we fill out a paper ballot then slide it in a machine. Trouble at our precinct was the machine was having trouble accepting the paper ballots. It took several tries before it gulped the ballot. Voter lines were long.....waiting for the ballots to slither in the machine!