The US Army's new Fat and Flabby Division ...

[dogtag]

As if the Service(s) going Woke wasn't bad enough and with Biden
fiving away the store, plus all the fit troops having being fired for not
taking the jabs, we now have this; totally out of shape recruits.
I suppose the new training would include a rigorous two hundred yard
route march (no packs as they're too heavy. (Have to avoid strokes
and or heart attacks).
It's a good job this isn't 1941 or we'd all be speaking Japanese.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-uniforms.html

[blackhawknj]

Several veterans who went through Basic at Fort Jackson in the 1980s said there was a Fat Boys Company-restricted diet and extra PT. Also they were restricted to the Company Area for the whole cycle, no snacks, no CARE packages from home...in years gone by one of the DIs would follow a fatty down the chow line-no bread or potatoes, no desserts....I enlisted in 1967, plenty of fatsos. "More PT, Drill Sergeant!"

[bruce]

Re: Physical standards. What were the PT requirements of WWII for men in boot camp? Were all men trained to the same standard or were they trained with a view to the job which they would do? Sincerely. bruce.

[Allen]

Re: Physical standards. What were the PT requirements of WWII for men in boot camp? Were all men trained to the same standard or were they trained with a view to the job which they would do? Sincerely. bruce.

A way different era then. The military drastically needed recruits then and most every one was involved with the war effort in some way. Men wanted to join and sometimes lied about their age to get in. Women worked in the munitions, garment and food supply system and did NOT serve in combat.

Looking at pictures from those times military and not, there wasn't a whole lot of fat back then. People WORKED. Many lived on farms. There was no welfare, video games, texting, TV (per se), and a lot of households still recovering from the great depression where money and food were not plentiful nor wasted. So physically, people were in better shape and not obese.

It was the "greatest generation" in many ways. W/O them we wouldn't have what we have today.

[blackhawknj]

I have read they found that recruits from poorer areas who had been raised on grits and gruel and not much else improved markedly with a balanced-and more substantial diet.
It seems that fatsos are angling to become the next aggrieved and discriminated against group and demanding protection, special treatment-acclamation.
In my day weight problems usually due to beer guzzling, no PT. Recall a small item I read in Infantry Magazine in 1979-1980, it "quoted" a Soviet general-"You Americans have it all backwards. Your generals are slender and your sergeants are fat."

[Vern Humphrey]

Re: Physical standards. What were the PT requirements of WWII for men in boot camp? Were all men trained to the same standard or were they trained with a view to the job which they would do? Sincerely. bruce.

The Army has traditionally used a two-tier training system. First there is Basic Training, which all soldiers go through. After that there is Advanced Individual Training, where soldiers are trained in their specialties. Total training time is about 16 weeks.

[blackhawknj]

In my day-Army 1967-1971 the only time I did PT was in BCT, Jump School, then in Germany starting in 1971.
Recall an article in Army Times back in 1979 on fitness and weight control, it quoted one soldier-"They serve potatoes at every meal."
One officer who served at Fort Hood in 1962 told me the people who were always falling out of runs were given weekend duties.

[pcox]

Did my basic training at Ft Leonard Wood in 1966. Don't recall any extra pt for the fat guys. We all ate the same and we all did three miles every morning, carrying an m14 and a field pack. They did assign a couple of fat guys as road guards. I suppose they put on several more miles than the rest of us. At the end of eight weeks we were all pretty much the same size except for height. The big uns got slimmer and us little uns got bigger. I went in at 152 and was a hard 174 at the end.

Of course they didn't care if we lived or died. My DI used to tell us he had a ten per cent cushion, he could kill 4.8 of us and not have to fill out any paperwork.