Putin shows rage at Russia's collapsing economy & failing war effort

[rayg]

Livid Putin humiliates deputy as he rages over collapsing economy and failing war effort
An angry Vladimir Putin told off the deputy prime minister of Russia in a video conference with other members of the government as he shakes up his high command again

Vladimir Putin has shown his rage at Russia's collapsing economy and failing war effort, as he publicly humiliated his deputy prime minister during an angry rant.

The fuming dictator blasted Denis Manturov in a government video conference for failing to procure military and civilian planes.

He accused him of "fooling around" after the politician, a deputy PM and Trade and Industry Minister, flew on holiday to Turkey over New Year.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/dramatic-plunge-russian-artillery-fire-28927791

[dogtag]

You sound gleeful. However,
everyone is getting tired of Zelensky's tireless begging.
It's likely Russia will eventually prevail.
All that will have been achieved is ashes, rubble and far too many dead.

[rayg]

You seem to be about the only one of a few, except for the Russia trolls, who are getting tired of paying to keep Ukraine a free country!

By the way look up the the cost to our country to support Ukraine to keep it out of the Russia block, in portion to our whole budget it's not a big cost, and we are getting a big return by replenishing and updating our weapons which also supports our weapon manufacturers,

[Allen]

Ray, with biden or any democrat in office, don't be too certain our weapons are being replenished and updated. Our stock pile of weapons came about when military budgets were generous enough to build them.

[dogtag]

Free country ? You've got to be kidding. It's a virtual dictatorship.
Most of our money given to Zelensky has been stolen, Zelensky has shut
down the media that dared to raise questions, and our weaponry is not being
replaced, at least not at the same pace as it's being depleted.
AQnd this stupid war has driven Russia into the arms of China and India.

[rayg]

In reply to Allen' post!

I hear what you are saying but I can't believe there wouldn't be some effort/push by the military and Republican congress to replace or upgrade them!

[rayg]

Can you prove the money given to Zelensky has been stolen

And also most countries shut down the media in war and as I mention before, the US did in WWII

I do have a serious question! are you a Russia troll?

[Allen]

Ray, with biden or any democrat in office, don't be too certain our weapons are being replenished and updated. Our stock pile of weapons came about when military budgets were generous enough to build them.

Looks like it's not just a money issue.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/navy-secretary-says-us-cant-maintain-support-ukraine-weapons-makers-dont-ramp-up-production

[one shot]

Me thinks the Ukrainian people are mighty tough .

[dogtag]

A Russian Troll ? Resorting to name calling shows your argument to be weak.
Plus, you sound like togor

[rayg]

Not name calling just a question as I thought I would be up front and ask! And what argument of mine is weak? The one were I asked you if you can you prove the money given to Zelensky has been stolen! You didn't answer that one and I also mentioned
that most countries shut down the media in war, Where is that wrong
Tell me what's weak about those statements?

[lyman]

You seem to be about the only one of a few, except for the Russia trolls, who are getting tired of paying to keep Ukraine a free country!

By the way look up the the cost to our country to support Ukraine to keep it out of the Russia block, in portion to our whole budget it's not a big cost, and we are getting a big return by replenishing and updating our weapons which also supports our weapon manufacturers,

after 20 years in the sand box, we should have all new state of the art stuff,
but then again, we left a lot of that stuff for the Afghans,,,,


and Ray, do some googling,

Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries out there,

[rayg]

Thanks Lyman I did and just found this interesting article


Ukraine takes two steps forward, one step back in anti-corruption fight

President Volodymyr Zelenskyy is adamant that his country’s future is in the EU, but is under pressure over Constitutional Court reforms.

Even when the Russians are invading your country, that doesn’t stop the clock when it comes to sweeping out corruption and fixing the judiciary in line with EU convergence criteria.

With the EU set to issue reports on Kyiv’s progress in March and then again in October, Ukraine’s advances on rule of law are swifter than expected, but it’s a case of two steps forward and one (very worrying) step back.

https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine-takes-two-steps-forward-one-step-back-in-anti-corruption-fight-constitutional-court-reform/

[Vern Humphrey]

Let's tone it down. WE can debate like adults, not like the Three xxxxxxxx

[rayg]

Vern sorry I didn't ask this earlier, but was that statement to tone it down meant in regard to one of my posts or was in regard to me posting a link to the site link above?