Is your DNA a public record?

[RED]

Who has your DNA on file! The question arise from the Idaho murders. How did the cops have the suspects DNA on hand to compare with DNA found at the crime scene?

[kj47]

If you had blood work, yep your on record.

[Allen]

Ironically I was talking to my wife last night about this (not that she was interested). I said that in the near future I could see DNA samples being taken at birth along with the fingerprinting that is already done.

In cases of death and crime where DNA would be needed, it would save time. DNA samples can be taken from blood relatives but you have to locate them and get their approval. Sometimes bodies have to be exhumed for sampling. With more and more people getting cremated these days, all the more important it be done at birth and on file.

I could see this going into medical or police records but never public records. There is already WAY too much info there that others need not know about. Perhaps in some cases enough info to endanger our lives.

[rayg]

Good post! DNA samples being taken at birth along with the fingerprinting.

[Vern Humphrey]

Good post! DNA samples being taken at birth along with the fingerprinting.

Along with implanting a chip that allows the government to track your every move.

[Allen]

Along with implanting a chip that allows the government to track your every move.

No. Just additional info on a birth certificate.

As far as the government knowing our every move. Much of that is done now with Smart TV's, Windows 10 and 11, Internet activity, all cell phone usage, Twitter and Face Book and of course, public records. It's 1984 except we are paying them to spy on us.

I think this is the real reason the gov't wants to ban paper money and coins. All transactions would have to be done by CC or check. All transactions could/would be tracked. That 30 year old yard sale tricycle that had been bought and sold a dozen times prior would now be taxed if purchased again since it would have to be bought with a CC and tracked.

EVERYTHING bought could be tracked, including ammo and reloading supplies. Large amounts of corn or sugar purchases would lead the feds to a possible moonshiner. Donations would be tracked to keep up with how much is claimed on tax returns. Coke machines would be set up for CC's, etc, etc......

[Vern Humphrey]

No. Just additional info on a birth certificate.

As far as the government knowing our every move. Much of that is done now with Smart TV's, Windows 10 and 11, Internet activity, all cell phone usage, Twitter and Face Book and of course, public records. It's 1984 except we are paying them to spy on us.

I think this is the real reason the gov't wants to ban paper money and coins. All transactions would have to be done by CC or check. All transactions could/would be tracked. That 30 year old yard sale tricycle that had been bought and sold a dozen times prior would now be taxed if purchased again since it would have to be bought with a CC and tracked.

EVERYTHING bought could be tracked, including ammo and reloading supplies. Large amounts of corn or sugar purchases would lead the feds to a possible moonshiner. Donations would be tracked to keep up with how much is claimed on tax returns. Coke machines would be set up for CC's, etc, etc......

What ever happened to the 4th Amendment?

Amendment IV
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

[Allen]

What ever happened to the 4th Amendment?

DEMOCRATS. Look what's happening to the 1st and 2nd.

As far as "secure", "unreasonable", and "probable cause" go they're added grey area language to make the amendment read anything the feds want it to say. ALL amendments are worded as such as to be twisted around as per meaning. Nothing is cut and dry. Citizens never have an opportunity to word anything.

Both parties are guilty of unclear wording but it seems only the dems twist the meaning to support their agenda's.

[Vern Humphrey]

We need to re-write the Constitution -- and add criminal penalties for violating it.

[Allen]

We need to re-write the Constitution -- and add criminal penalties for violating it.

That would be great if it were re-written as per the original meanings and not what the politicians want. Remember the democrats want to re-write it now. Criminal penalties is a grey area and could relate to nothing. It should state something EXACT like "30 years in a maximum security prison w/o any chance of parole or early release".

[Vern Humphrey]

That would be great if it were re-written as per the original meanings and not what the politicians want. Remember the democrats want to re-write it now. Criminal penalties is a grey area and could relate to nothing. It should state something EXACT like "30 years in a maximum security prison w/o any chance of parole or early release".

That's the way I see it. Term limits, fines for Congressional misconduct, ethics courts to control the judges and lawyers, balanced budget, tax power reserved to the people exclusively and so on.

[pcox]

You don't have to rewrite the constitution, merely propose an amendment and get it ratified by two thirds of the state legislatures. That's not an easy task. Just imagine how hard it would be to rewrite the whole damn thing.

[Vern Humphrey]

You don't have to rewrite the constitution, merely propose an amendment and get it ratified by two thirds of the state legislatures. That's not an easy task. Just imagine how hard it would be to rewrite the whole damn thing.

The trick would be to have an amendment or whole constitution all written and publicly discussed and then call for the states to call for a Constitutional Convention for the sole purpose of voting the proposed amendment or proposed new constitution up or down.

[barretcreek]

When the Constitution was written, the great majority of Americans could be considered self employed. Now about 85?% are on someone's payroll.

Whole different mindset. We may get back there,though.

[Allen]

When the Constitution was written, the great majority of Americans could be considered self employed. Now about 85?% are on someone's payroll.

Whole different mindset. We may get back there,though.

Getting rid of welfare would change things overnight. People would return to work, limit their population, the flow through our borders would end (no wall needed) and the green cards would end. There would be no jobs for them---our own people would be doing the work no one else wants to do.

Hospital cost would come way down because those getting services would be paying for it or actually have real insurance. A few wouldn't be toting the bill for the multitude.