What if Biden wins a second term ? ...

[dryheat]

Yes, they did. The election was not stolen. That's Bigfoot and Aliens. It's BS built up on BS. Keep repeating it and it's true.
The media? Hell ya. That's what they do. Trump scared a lot of old ladies. Trump scared middle of the road people. The news worked that for four years. They made him look like a clown. They did not like him. That's the news media and the liberals who were scared to pieces of him.
So, you get voted out of office.
Jan. 6 was the Furherbunker. I wanted to get the name of the mtn. but nothing shows up, so I got furherbunker. Not Russians, but jackass white Americans who aren't any smarter than blacks in this case. Not making a scientific comparison. It's not the same kind of riot, exactly, but I hate riots in general.

[Allen]

If the election was not stolen why did the democrats and ONLY the democrats fight so hard against any re-counts? Why did the democrats and ONLY the democrats fight to keep mail in voting and early voting?

If there was no fraud why would they care?

Why are you so convinced there was no fraud?

In the case in your state Hobbs vs Lake for governor. Hobbs was the state AG. The one who certifies election winners. This alone should have disqualified her as being unethical. The election was very close as you know. Then ironically the voting machines in the 2 largest counties malfunction and hold up the election for many days. These same 2 counties also lean right.

Not only fraud in the U.S. election but in your own state. Way too transparent.

But since you are so against Lake for being a Trump supporter you ended up with the governor you like most.

[dryheat]

Well,hell son, I don't believe that fraud can't happen in this day and age. There's been fraud since apples. I like to believe that it's tightened up, what with the tech and all.
I mean, what can we count on? Is it always a lie? If they are lying then, we should get on board and lie as good or better. If that's the way the game is played aroond here. I think it's pretty well scrutinized. The cheating and lying balances out so I don't worry about it all that much. To hammer it home; Trump lost because he wasn't good enough. End of story.
I've liked Kari since she was on local tv. But so far weathermen and desk sitters haven't proven out. With respect.

[Major Tom]

George Soros can pay big bucks to make fraud look legal!

[Vern Humphrey]

Well,hell son, I don't believe that fraud can't happen in this day and age. There's been fraud since apples. I like to believe that it's tightened up, what with the tech and all.
I mean, what can we count on? Is it always a lie? If they are lying then, we should get on board and lie as good or better. If that's the way the game is played aroond here. I think it's pretty well scrutinized. The cheating and lying balances out so I don't worry about it all that much. To hammer it home; Trump lost because he wasn't good enough. End of story.
I've liked Kari since she was on local tv. But so far weathermen and desk sitters haven't proven out. With respect.

As an old election commissioner, let me tell you that tech makes it EASIER to cheat, not harder. The one thing that makes elections more honest -- picture ID -- the Democrats fought tooth and nail.

[dryheat]

Agree. What is wrong with having an ID card of some sort. "It's not our thing". Well, then you don't get to play. "I lost it". Your to disorganized to vote. Go away.

[Vern Humphrey]

Photo ID has made a big difference in Arkansas -- most of the voter fraud used to be in absentee voting, but now we require a Xerox copy of your photo ID, and that has cut down no fraud. The next step is to put the Driver's License picture on the voting computer, so you can compare the picture submitted with the one on file.

[Allen]

We do the same in Alabama. I don't know what types ID are accepted but they ask for your DL.

As said before: our SS # should be our ID. No one should have more than one SS #. No one but legal citizens should have a SS #.

Except for the military everyone should be required to vote in person.

Vote counting involves a whole different fraud though. Machines can easily be hacked or programmed to meet user requirements. Human counting just invites corruption.

[Vern Humphrey]

We do the same in Alabama. I don't know what types ID are accepted but they ask for your DL.

As said before: our SS # should be our ID. No one should have more than one SS #. No one but legal citizens should have a SS #.

Except for the military everyone should be required to vote in person.

Vote counting involves a whole different fraud though. Machines can easily be hacked or programmed to meet user requirements. Human counting just invites corruption.

Arkansas used to have serial numbered ballots, and with a judge's order, you could locate a particular voter's ballot.

In Virginia, I was involved in a recount where we found several ineligible people had voted. The law said we should throw out one ballot selected at RANDOM for each ineligible voter!!!

[Allen]

Arkansas used to have serial numbered ballots, and with a judge's order, you could locate a particular voter's ballot.

In Virginia, I was involved in a recount where we found several ineligible people had voted. The law said we should throw out one ballot selected at RANDOM for each ineligible voter!!!

See what all has changed?

The ballots should have recordable serial numbers or be considered counterfeit.

Abusers should be fined and jailed to the fullest extent of the law.

[Vern Humphrey]

See what all has changed?

The ballots should have recordable serial numbers or be considered counterfeit.

Abusers should be fined and jailed to the fullest extent of the law.

It's the last part that's hard. We used to say our county prosecutor wouldn't sit at his desk, for fear it would collapse under the weight of all the voter fraud evidence we had piled on it. That included evidence of HIM committing voter fraud.

[blackhawknj]

No voter ID required here in NJ, you go to your polling place, to your district, give them your name, sign the book......
A violation of rights ? You need a library card, the town I live in is not part of the county library, I cannot borrow at other libraries.

[Allen]

No voter ID required here in NJ, you go to your polling place, to your district, give them your name, sign the book......
A violation of rights ? You need a library card, the town I live in is not part of the county library, I cannot borrow at other libraries.

I'm assuming since you have a designated polling place and sign the book that your name is already on their roster. In that case someone couldn't just make up a name but could use the name of those died if they were still on the books. On top of that, if I knew your name I could vote and sign the book barring you from being able to vote.

[rayg]

Well,hell son, I don't believe that fraud can't happen in this day and age. There's been fraud since apples. I like to believe that it's tightened up, what with the tech and all.
I mean, what can we count on? Is it always a lie? If they are lying then, we should get on board and lie as good or better. If that's the way the game is played aroond here. I think it's pretty well scrutinized. The cheating and lying balances out so I don't worry about it all that much. To hammer it home; Trump lost because he wasn't good enough. End of story.
I've liked Kari since she was on local tv. But so far weathermen and desk sitters haven't proven out. With respect.

I my old home village, the village clerk used to take the ballots to the old peoples nursing home so the residents could vote and she would help them fill out the ballots! She was a democrat and it's amazing but most of the votes went to Dems as well as for friends of hers or those who she liked who were running for the local election.

You said To hammer it home; Trump lost because he wasn't good enough. End of story.

Yes it's too bad that it's the end of the story as he was the best president we had had for many years despite his poor/stupid off the cuff remarks which turned too many people off!

[blackhawknj]

Here in NJ ID is required in schools, in many the kids have to wear it on a lanyard around their necks when they are in school. I note than nearby Princeton High School in Princeton, NJ is a highly rated school, they are quite zealous in ensuring that only students who are legal residents of Princeton or one of its sending districts may attend.