Ukraine Using More Munitions Than West Can Supply

[Allen]

This is what I've been saying. Supplying the Ukraine is one thing but letting our own stock reduce is another. Perhaps this is why Russia is holding back their rusty nukes and stealth MIGs. They intend on weakening us and other countries then attacking. If not them then perhaps China or a combo of other axis countries.

Most all U.S. manufacturing needs to be switched over to military needs. We have plenty of cars, trains, pencils and shoe's. Time to produce what WE need for defense. My 2 cents.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-russia-war-latest-ukraine-075244873.html

[bruce]

Most all U.S. manufacturing needs to be switched over to military needs. We have plenty of cars, trains, pencils and shoe's. Time to produce what WE need for defense. My 2 cents. Understandable. However, just exactly who will be willing to go along with their investments tanking as factories are commandeered and retooled to produce war material? That is of course to say nothing about the fact that few if any shoes or pencils are made in the US but instead imported mostly from ... China. How much usable factory space would be adaptable war production on a actual scale of use? Sincerely. bruce.

[Allen]

Most all U.S. manufacturing needs to be switched over to military needs. We have plenty of cars, trains, pencils and shoe's. Time to produce what WE need for defense. My 2 cents. Understandable. However, just exactly who will be willing to go along with their investments tanking as factories are commandeered and retooled to produce war material? That is of course to say nothing about the fact that few if any shoes or pencils are made in the US but instead imported mostly from ... China. How much usable factory space would be adaptable war production on a actual scale of use? Sincerely. bruce.

Why would investments tank?

When Ford made planes and jeeps during WW2 they hired more people and produced more. $ came from the gov't just like it would now.

Many, many companies converted to war time production then. As far as I know they all flourished because of it. I never heard of GM, IBM, Rock-ola and countless others going bankrupt because they switched production to making rifles.

Pencils and shoes were just examples of manufactured goods that we don't need more of right away but since you brought up that they are imported from China you would have to agree that it doesn't make sense to feed the hand that bites you. China's and Japan's economy is what it is today because of us sacrificing our own labor for the sake of cheap made goods. Aside from what we have to buy we shouldn't import from China.

Cars last many years now. People don't need to buy a new one every year. We have plenty for now----tanks, planes, other equipment, we don't.

[dogtag]

You think Biden gives a hoot about our military ? You're dreaming
if you think this bunch of leftists and Miley care about or even know about
how low our stocks are. And if they did they wouldn't care.
You talk as though Reagan was President. He Ain't. Biden is.

[Allen]

Biden can't force private enterprise what they can or can not produce. There has to be incentives and perhaps other favors.

The matter would have to begin in the House as to how to pay and encourage production.

Passing the Senate would be another matter. Perhaps if someone planted the bug in their ear that Russia and China will support the GOP next election and plan to hack the voting machines this time to favor the GOP votes. I believe that would get their attention.

[dogtag]

A firework up the arse might work but I fear not much else.
In case you didn't know "Climate Change" is the biggest threat we face
not China or Russia or N Korea or Iran. No, Climate Change will kill us all
and that is where the leftists' heads are focused.

[Allen]

In case you didn't know "Climate Change" is the biggest threat we face
not China or Russia or N Korea or Iran. No, Climate Change will kill us all
and that is where the leftists' heads are focused.

Well, that's probably their biggest scheme to make money.

[blackhawknj]

If the ammo companies are tapped to produce for the Ukrainians-you think there's an ammo shortage now ? And given how much of our manufacturing capacity has been shiiped overseas....
I have read that US defense related industry has no "jump" capacity at present. And we did not enter WWII "cold", the industrial planning had been started years before. I read in 1938 Winchester received an educational order to allow them to tool up and produce the M-1Rifle, the Naval Act of 1938 mandated a 20% increase in Navy strength, the Two Ocean Navy Act of 1940, all the developments in aviation.
If this conflict drags out I'm sure we'll see accusations about "merchants of death."

[Major Tom]

A government ordnance plant is located just 2-3 miles from us. They build mostly artillary rounds. When they were going strong we could hear them set off explosions of unuseable powder all day long. Not any more, so production has been nil. This plant has thousands of acres and completely fenced off with roving patrols along the perimeter.
I wonder if Joe has shut down production?

[Allen]

A government ordnance plant is located just 2-3 miles from us. They build mostly artillary rounds. When they were going strong we could hear them set off explosions of unuseable powder all day long. Not any more, so production has been nil. This plant has thousands of acres and completely fenced off with roving patrols along the perimeter.
I wonder if Joe has shut down production?

Yes, by funding "Global Warming", "The Kennedy Foundation", woke, BLM, freebies and money for the illegals and other agencies that benefit the democrats rather than for national security and defense.