Banning Gas appliances, easier said than done ...

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  • dogtag
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 14985

    #1

    Banning Gas appliances, easier said than done ...

    I wonder if this bunch of loonies has really considered exactly
    what this plan would entail regarding; Cost. For starters.
    Who's going to pay for:
    Cost of new electric appliances (oven and range plus heat system)
    Cost to rewire house (running two 30 amps to kitchen)
    Possible cost to install new service entrance panel for 200 amps.
    You can figure new appliances will not fit in the present openings.
    If this lot tries to saddle the homeowners with these very expensive
    costs, then I would expect all hell to break loose. AND:
    Are these wokers planning on supplying the needed electricity via solar
    and windmills ? If so then what happens when the Sun goes down,
    the wind stops and the whole state switches on their range and oven
    in order to cook dinner ?
  • Allen
    Moderator
    • Sep 2009
    • 10581

    #2
    The cost will be passed on to the consumers.

    Nat gas and propane will be taxed more (and big oil blamed for it).

    Gas appliances may have additional taxes put on them as well.

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    • dogtag
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 14985

      #3
      Restaurant Chefs cook with Gas.
      You can go from high heat to simmer immediately with gas.
      With electric, forget it.
      Restaurants will be serving burnt food.

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      • Allen
        Moderator
        • Sep 2009
        • 10581

        #4
        Originally posted by dogtag
        Restaurant Chefs cook with Gas.
        You can go from high heat to simmer immediately with gas.
        With electric, forget it.
        Restaurants will be serving burnt food.
        I prefer elec but know restaurants have to have gas.

        If gas is eliminated restaurants will all go to deli style where food is cooked in advanced with no special orders. Fast food will be pre-cooked stuff heated in microwaves when ordered.

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        • dogtag
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 14985

          #5
          Or maybe they'll go Propane or Butane

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          • RED
            Very Senior Member - OFC
            • Aug 2009
            • 11689

            #6
            All the gas, butane, propane are included in the ban. Notably, gas pipes are buried in the ground while most electricity are transmitted over wires that are easily knocked out. You cannot store electricity anywhere except temporally in a battery. When the SHTF, electricity will be gone very quickly. Just recently a ice storm put out a sisters electricity for 10 days but she could still cook!

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            • Allen
              Moderator
              • Sep 2009
              • 10581

              #7
              After one of our many hurricanes that togor said we never had before "global warming", we had no elec for 2-3 weeks. We did have a gas water heater though and could take warm baths (city water and city nat gas).

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              • Major Tom
                Very Senior Member - OFC
                • Aug 2009
                • 6181

                #8
                My house came equipped with electric range. It bit the dust! Replacement cost $1100 and is a basic range with no frills! Last Christmas, our furnace decided to leave us. Called the furnace guy and he got it working temporarly. Cost for a new American made furnace (Amana) plus HVAC system was $9000+. Happy New Year for us?
                BTW, niether of the venders had payment options, pay for now they said!
                Last edited by Major Tom; 02-20-2023, 03:44.

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                • Allen
                  Moderator
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 10581

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Major Tom
                  My house came equipped with electric range. It bit the dust! Replacement cost $1100 and is a basic range with no frills! Last Christmas, our furnace decided to leave us. Called the furnace guy and he got it working temporarly. Cost for a new American made furnace (Amana) plus HVAC system was $9000+. Happy New Year for us?
                  BTW, niether of the venders had payment options, pay for now they said!
                  Not the fault of the appliances being gas or elec but the local businesses. Next time try Lowes or Home Depot. If I'm not mistaken they contract out HVAC too.

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                  • RED
                    Very Senior Member - OFC
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 11689

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Major Tom
                    My house came equipped with electric range. It bit the dust! Replacement cost $1100 and is a basic range with no frills! Last Christmas, our furnace decided to leave us. Called the furnace guy and he got it working temporarly. Cost for a new American made furnace (Amana) plus HVAC system was $9000+. Happy New Year for us?
                    BTW, niether of the venders had payment options, pay for now they said!
                    If you look into it you will find that the price is so high because the Greenies have made your entire system obsolete. You can no longer just replace the compressor, a motor, a solenoid, etc. you have to replace every thing.

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                    • blackhawknj
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 3754

                      #11
                      The first time there is a major and prolonged blackout, loss of power and people realize an electric stove, electric heating, etc. makes them totally dependent on the power grid while gas heat gives them self sufficiency and indepdendence...

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                      • dogtag
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 14985

                        #12
                        I have Propane tanks and a burner. I also have a butane stove, 5 Coleman type
                        lanterns. I also have 2 hurricane lamps (not much good for light, but they look cute)
                        I was a Boy Scout.

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                        • Vern Humphrey
                          Administrator - OFC
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 15875

                          #13
                          I have a fully-finished basement (maintains 55 degrees year round with no heating or air conditioning) with a wood-burning Buck stove and over 160 acres of trees. I have a Coleman lantern, a Coleman stove for cooking and everything thing else I need to survive a sustained blackout (and have done that on multiple occasions when the electricity was out for as much as two weeks.) And nowadays I have a whole-house propane backup generator.

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