I need gasoline

[dryheat]

About three wks. ago gas was 3.39/gal. I missed filling the tank by a day. 3.59 on Weds. I filled the tank (grrrr). I guess that was a good move, seven days later it's 3.79.
Yesterday I see it's 3.99 (lets call it $4). On the way home from the store an hr later it's 4.19! Let's do some math- The price of gas has gone up .80 cents this month.
Twenty gallons, that another $16 it costs me to fill the tank. Real Nice.

[Major Tom]

I haven't 'filled' my car's gas tank for the last 2 years. Thank you Putin! Wait, Biden did that!

[dryheat]

!!! Gas jumped .30 cents yesterday. $4.50 now. I don't think it's that high everywhere, but we like to be like California. Summer gas costs more I hear. Lots of traveling. Hiways covered in snow. Russia ect. Lots of reasons.

[Allen]

At least we still refine in this country though the number of refinery's are steadily shrinking due to taxes, fines, fees, regulations and cost to operate.

If/when the day comes we import gasoline and other fuels already processed (refined) watch out because then we will be charged whatever people will pay.

Gasoline is still cheaper than bottled water even though refineries can cost billions to build and operate. Anyone can bottle water.

I'm not defending the price of gas, I'm just stating we have it better here than most places and it could be way worse. I think the only reason the gov't hasn't taxed it beyond reach now is because many of their voters, being on welfare, have nothing to do but ride around and burn gas so the price increase would affect them.

[pcox]

At least we still refine in this country though the number of refinery's are steadily shrinking due to taxes, fines, fees, regulations and cost to operate.

If/when the day comes we import gasoline and other fuels already processed (refined) watch out because then we will be charged whatever people will pay.

Gasoline is still cheaper than bottled water even though refineries can cost billions to build and operate. Anyone can bottle water.

I'm not defending the price of gas, I'm just stating we have it better here than most places and it could be way worse. I think the only reason the gov't hasn't taxed it beyond reach now is because many of their voters, being on welfare, have nothing to do but ride around and burn gas so the price increase would affect them.

As per 2007 when I retired as a boilermaker, there hadn't been a refinery built in this country for over fifty years. The EPA would not grant a license to build a new refinery, but rebuilding the old ones was OK.

[Allen]

As per 2007 when I retired as a boilermaker, there hadn't been a refinery built in this country for over fifty years. The EPA would not grant a license to build a new refinery, but rebuilding the old ones was OK.

You're probably right. I was always told that if someone wanted to build a new refinery it would take 5+ years of approval to process getting permitted and/or license. That may have changed to "not at all".

When looking up # of refineries nation wide bare in mind not all of them make gasoline or other fuels.

[dryheat]

No time to start like the present.

[Allen]

No time to start like the present.

The "squatter in chief" has shut down our fracking and pipelines. Existing refineries remain because have established sources of crude like being built beside a shipping channel or pumping station. At least crude that can be delivered at a reasonable cost.

Refining isn't that profitable otherwise everyone would be trying to get into the act.