Equality vs. Equity

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  • Art
    Senior Member, Deceased
    • Dec 2009
    • 9256

    #1

    Equality vs. Equity

    Politically, in the United States, equality is the idea that every one gets an equal shot at success. We do understand that in reality some people are born with a leg up due to the wealth or status of their family or community but we don't live in a Utopia. This idea worked out pretty well over the first 250 years of the Republic. Plenty of people have come from next to nothing to achieve, if not greatness, at least a great improvement over the situation of their ancestors.

    Equity is a utopian, in this case communist idea that everyone has an equal outcome. In the real world that now means reducing the status and means of those who have been successful to the level of those who have not (except of course the leftist elites.) That is the reasoning behind, for example, "cashless bail." The rationale being that since people of means can post bail and wait out the disposition of their case in freedom everybody should be able to wait out the disposition of their case in freedom no matter how big a low life said dirtball is. One of the casualties of this kind of thinking is objectivity. The Black Lives Matter manifesto listed three things they opposed, to wit: the nuclear family, individualism, and objectivity. Kicking objectivity to the curb means the purveyors of this stuff can make up "facts" as they go along. For example, a "left coast" D.A. recently said that incarceration doesn't reduce crime. That of course, is objectively and provably false. This is also the sort of thinking that declares mathematics and the English language "racist."

    There was a recent post on these forums about the current administrations push to ban backup gas powered home generators. I believe eco extremism is only part of the reason. There is also the idea that it isn't "equitable" that some people have a way to mitigate the misery of a power outage while other's don't.

    Nothing is more dangerous than a Utopian. To them the end always justifies the means no matter how objectively (there's that word again) stupid both the means and the end are. Utopians have been responsible for a huge part of the misery of human beings since the beginning of time, from the Spartans, to the French revolutionaries, to the NAZIs and Communists millions, probably billions have died in the pursuit of Utopian ideals never realized.
  • Vern Humphrey
    Administrator - OFC
    • Aug 2009
    • 15875

    #2
    Zbignew Brzinski, Carter's National Security Advisor, said "Communism is the greatest disaster ever to overtake the Human race." He wasn't wrong. All in all Socialism and all the other utopian schemes have created a mess we may not be able to work our way out of.

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    • Allen
      Moderator
      • Sep 2009
      • 10581

      #3
      Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
      Zbignew Brzinski, Carter's National Security Advisor, said "Communism is the greatest disaster ever to overtake the Human race." He wasn't wrong. All in all Socialism and all the other utopian schemes have created a mess we may not be able to work our way out of.
      The Vietnam war was fought over the spread of communism too. Now we have socialist/communist members in congress. They admit it and are proud of it. All the previous bloodshed and money for nothing.

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      • Vern Humphrey
        Administrator - OFC
        • Aug 2009
        • 15875

        #4
        Originally posted by Allen
        The Vietnam war was fought over the spread of communism too. Now we have socialist/communist members in congress. They admit it and are proud of it. All the previous bloodshed and money for nothing.
        Whatzerface, the wacko from NY accused someone of being "Anti-Socialist!"

        That's like being anti-Bubonic Plague!

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        • barretcreek
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2013
          • 6065

          #5
          Their religion. As with all religious nutjobs they cannot tolerate dissent, which is heresy. Only one end point.

          Ask an immigrant what they think of 'equity'.
          Last edited by barretcreek; 07-25-2023, 03:20.

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          • Vern Humphrey
            Administrator - OFC
            • Aug 2009
            • 15875

            #6
            Originally posted by Allen
            The Vietnam war was fought over the spread of communism too. Now we have socialist/communist members in congress. They admit it and are proud of it. All the previous bloodshed and money for nothing.
            I trained for defeating Communism and Socialism all my life. And I'm ready for a rematch!

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            • blackhawknj
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2011
              • 3754

              #7
              Equality is people getting what they are legally entitled to. Equity is people getting what they think they should get.

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              • Allen
                Moderator
                • Sep 2009
                • 10581

                #8
                Originally posted by blackhawknj
                Equality is people getting what they are legally entitled to. Equity is people getting what they think they should get.
                Good way to put it.

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