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  • RED
    Very Senior Member - OFC
    • Aug 2009
    • 11689

    #1

    November 1963, remembered

    Conspiracies are just theories, not fact... says the Secret Service agent haunted by JFK?s shooting.

    It has become a cliche that everyone of a certain age could tell you where they were when they heard President John F Kennedy was dead. Clint Hill spent decades trying to forget.

    Secret Service agent Clint Hill heard the shot and saw where Kennedy was hit from behind in the neck and then another that literally blew out his brains some of which wound up in Jacqueline Kennedy s hands. He was climbing onto the trunk trying to put himself between the bullets and their target. At the hospital, Jacky would not turn loose of the Presidents head and brain until Hill covered it with his coat.

    Those are facts. All the bullets were coming from the right rear and Hill is adamant about that, plus the rifle and bullets found in the book depository are hard evidence and not just theories.
    Last edited by RED; 11-14-2023, 10:38.
  • lyman
    Administrator - OFC
    • Aug 2009
    • 11266

    #2
    it has been 60 yrs, time to release all the documents and be done with it,

    I was 6 weeks old when it happened

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    • Allen
      Moderator
      • Sep 2009
      • 10580

      #3
      Just saying or adding:

      Someone wanted to silence Oswald really, really bad to shoot him unarmed and in custody of the law. Little was said and done of Jack Ruby's act.

      Watching a program the other night stated that JFK's body was taken to a hospital far away and examined by 2 military personnel who had orders and were not pathologist.

      And then the files, locked away for 75 years so that no one of that generation would know all the facts. WHY ??

      There has to be cover up.

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      • blackhawknj
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2011
        • 3754

        #4
        Everybody assumes the documents are factual, truthful, well organized, well written, etc.

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        • dryheat
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 10587

          #5
          Conspiracies are just theories, not fact... says the Secret Service agent haunted by JFK?s shooting.-
          Say's me too.
          Jack got kiled by a lame assed rifle. Lucky shot? I'd say so. But any modern arm is capable of hitting a trash can lid at a hundred yrd(just a comparison no hatred towards JFK). Keep up the research work. But, don't be afraid to jump off of the track on occasion. If no one rescues you, then you were on the wrong track.
          JFK's assassination was a shock to my young sixth grade world. To this day I kind of hate immigrants.
          Last edited by dryheat; 11-22-2023, 08:21.
          If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.

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          • RED
            Very Senior Member - OFC
            • Aug 2009
            • 11689

            #6
            Come on heat... there are 100 tons of hard evidence and not 1 ounce that anyone has found to the contrary.

            I bet you have looked at the conspirers but never about the indisputable evidence. How about the 2 guys leaning out of the window directly below Oswald that had grains of concrete in their hair dislodged by the muzzle blast?

            I would bet that if the gun found in the depository had been a scoped 1903, you would claim that as evidence Oswald did not do it because he could not afford a real sniper rifle!
            Last edited by RED; 11-24-2023, 10:43.

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            • Allen
              Moderator
              • Sep 2009
              • 10580

              #7
              Evidence, evidence. Did anyone see Oswald pull the trigger?

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              • 5thDragoons
                Super Moderator
                • Apr 2023
                • 651

                #8
                First tour in Viet Nam, a guy in my company said he had been working at that place. Said he was interviewed six times by six different agents. Didn't recall ever seeing LHO while he worked there. The worst part of it all? We got stuck with LBJ. SW

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                • blackhawknj
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 3754

                  #9
                  Because Oswald was silenced there was no proper trial, no adversarial proceedings. The Warren Commission appointed no one to represent Oswald, hence no challenging of witnesses, no cross examinations, etc.

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                  • Allen
                    Moderator
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 10580

                    #10
                    Originally posted by blackhawknj
                    Because Oswald was silenced there was no proper trial, no adversarial proceedings. The Warren Commission appointed no one to represent Oswald, hence no challenging of witnesses, no cross examinations, etc.
                    Right.

                    From that point on it was one sided. Make Oswald the lone murderer, Jack Ruby the hero, make claims that JFK was the best president ever and no one would ever harm him, make guns the blame of all crimes. Cheap priced mail order guns were the cause of all evil and were stopped.

                    JFK has been glorified as being perfect ever since and the story goes ONLY as it was planned and what they want us to hear and believe otherwise there would be NO locked, secret files stating what actually DID happen and who all was involved.

                    Perhaps snuffing out Kennedy was part of the agreement by Russia on removing the missiles from Cuba? "We remove our missiles--you remove the problem that caused it" ???? Anything is possible.

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