M1922 M1 Springfield .22 cal

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  • Cosine26
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 737

    #16
    I know that this is an old thread, but as I look at the D&T holes in the receiver, they appear to be out of line. The forward hole seems to be a bit further right than does the rer hole. I wonder if these holes were D&T at SA or aftermarket. Would the armory use a fixture that would keep them in alignment?
    Just curious

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    • Kragrifle
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 1161

      #17
      Cosine26,
      Looks like one of the plug screws is flat, the other rounded so this may be why it looks that way. Mount a scope block and sight down it, you may find the holes are OK. I have followed this thread since these rifles are one of my main interests. 40 K or so were made of the 22 cal Springfields and 60 K were screwed with so that it is rare to find one that is original or even correct. Likely this is a 1922 M1 NRA receiver with a later barrel, put together by who knows. If you like it, shoot it and if you do not, sell it and buy another. Trying to find all the parts to make it correct is very difficult and expensive today.

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      • RCK
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 245

        #18
        Amen to what Kragrifle said. I started with a mint Model 1922M1 receiver and finally completed a correct, complete rifle. It took over one year and that was 32 years ago!

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        • Kurt
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2011
          • 488

          #19
          Originally posted by Cosine26
          *Let me add some information that could maybe explain this rifle. After WWII there appeared on the surplus market many 22 Springfield parts to include, stocks, barrels, bolts, etc. As indicted in the paragraph below, in 1957, the DCM offered M1 and M2 22’s in ‘serviceable’ and ‘unserviceable’ condition with no choice – you took what you could get. It is possible that a person who received an ‘unserviceable’ M1 ordered and installed “new” parts.
          Just a thought.
          *Just a little interesting history. By 1957 there had been a long “dry” spell during which “Springfield” rifles were not available from the DCM. In the January issue of the AMERICAN RIFLEMAN there was a two page spread on the availability of the M1903A3’s at $30 + $2.85 Packing and handling for “serviceable”, and $15 + $2.85 for “unserviceable. I think that many people jumped on this opportunity and failed to notice a small notice back under the DCM notes, that a small quantity of M1 & M2 22 caliber rifles was available for the $30 and $15 prices plus the $2. 85 P&H. Either M1 or M2 rifles would be shipped with no choice. As soon as I saw this (within hours of receiving my AR) , I airmailed my request and as I understand it, I was one of two people in the state of Kansas who was lucky enough to get a “serviceable” M1922M1I”. At the time I was just out of the USAF, starting a new job and a new family so funds were short, but I recognized this as an opportunity that I could not afford to miss.
          The rifle was in excellent condition, but had been rebuilt was parkerized and carried a 1942 SA barrel. It was an M2 and was marked “M1922M1I “with the “B” serial number. The second “one” was not a one but was the capital letter “I”. I do not know whether this was standard or if the builder just happened to have an “I” instead of “1”. Perhaps Herschel will know. It came with one magazine and no sling.
          Would you by chance still have the DCM papers that came with the rifle? If so, what was it listed as?, Rifle US Cal 22 M2 ?
          I ask as I've seen and am looking at a couple with the same mo as yours, 1957 DCM sales rifles. One has papers with it, one doesn't. Neither are drilled and tapped, both look parkerized, and have the 1942 barrels.
          I know this thread is a little old but thought I'd ask.

          Thanks

          Kurt
          As the late Turner Kirkland was fond of saying, "If you want good oats, you have to pay the price. If you'll take oats that have already been through the horse, those come cheaper."

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          • pelago
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2010
            • 582

            #20
            i am fortunate to own two of them, one of them was modified (seems like 100 years, but probably not) to a prone gun with a heavy heavy barrel, and the other one is pure stock and both are a pure delight to shoot, accurate as can be, and like a said a real joy to plink with, often debated squirrel hunting with the stock one i have it set dead on at 50 yards point of aim point of impact and, well can not say any more but have fun with your fine rifle

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            • Kurt
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2011
              • 488

              #21
              Pelago, I don't own either yet but am looking. We have a Winchester 62 my mother got on her 16th birthday and it's a fun one to shoot and the fit and feel of these old guns beats what's out there today, and they have "history". I'm not hung up on the collector aspect so much as want to avoid the pitfalls. Getting .22 ammo here in the North country is like finding gold nuggets on the street these days, good thing I have a stash of that!

              Kurt
              As the late Turner Kirkland was fond of saying, "If you want good oats, you have to pay the price. If you'll take oats that have already been through the horse, those come cheaper."

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              • pelago
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2010
                • 582

                #22
                GET IT, AND SHOOT IT
                once you have done that you will never go back, these are so much fun to shoot and they also make you shoot better
                and you can get an adjustable rear iris for the rifle and i added the USMC front sight blade (big old fat front sight) and it is an ass kicker at 50-100 yards prone and offhand
                i just bought four bricks of ely plus

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                • Kurt
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2011
                  • 488

                  #23
                  Bought the one with the dcm papers. It's sitting at my ffl's till I get back home next weekend. Looking forward to picking it up have no doubt it will live up to your experience. I'll checking in when I get it.

                  Kurt
                  Last edited by Kurt; 01-20-2014, 07:13.
                  As the late Turner Kirkland was fond of saying, "If you want good oats, you have to pay the price. If you'll take oats that have already been through the horse, those come cheaper."

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                  • 2barearms
                    Junior Member
                    • Oct 2013
                    • 1

                    #24
                    I have one of the 1922M1I rifles with the NRA shotgun buttplate stock. The Barrel date is 1932 it's drilled and tapped for O and E
                    blocks which I still have. It came with a JW Fecker 10x scope which is on a Winchester 52D. The Bolt is not electropenciled but does
                    have a drawing number on it. The sn is very close to the OP's rifle.

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                    • Herschel
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 973

                      #25
                      Some of the 1922M1 Rifles were made up for loan to DCM affiliated gun clubs. These will have the 1922 stock, which is also known as the NRA stock, and will be drilled and tapped on the receiver ring and barrel for scope blocks. A receiver in the 15000 serial number range would have been made in the late 1920's. From my observation I believe that the 1922M1 Club Issue rifles that were rebarreled were drilled and tapped on the new barrel for the forward scope block.

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                      • Kurt
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2011
                        • 488

                        #26
                        I got back into town and picked up the 1922 from my ffl. It appears to be all I expected and maybe a bit more.

                        I looked it over and it frankly I don't think it's been shot much if ever since sold by the DCM in 1957. The bolt was a little stiff from dried grease, the mags as well. The bore is like new, bright and shiny. I took it with me to the range yesterday and other than the stiff bolt and mags, it shot very nicely. I did have a few ftf's. When I got it home, I took the bolt apart (with excellent info found here) and discovered a lot of old black grease packed in the spring and firing pin! After cleaning and lubing that, it functioned with authority. I also oiled the mags and they worked smoothly. One mag seems to be better than the other, one is a little tight going in and out, both marked M2.

                        These are certainly fun to shoot and my stash of .22 doesn't look as big as it did

                        Here's a few pictures, any comments or info is always much appreciated!









                        Kurt
                        As the late Turner Kirkland was fond of saying, "If you want good oats, you have to pay the price. If you'll take oats that have already been through the horse, those come cheaper."

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                        • pelago
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 582

                          #27
                          those little 22 target options, swinging, revolving, games are all kinds of fun with this rifle and you can get a merit rear sight adjustable aperture pretty cheap
                          i also got a USMC front sight blade and put it on there and scores came way up, only one thing wrong and that is it weighs too much to allow to shoot at the cmp rimfire games, and it is a unfair squirrel gun

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                          • Kurt
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2011
                            • 488

                            #28
                            Pelago, I'm going to look into the Merit sight and I think I have a Lyman 17 Globe sight around here someplace. Fun to play around with! Any particular .22 ammo that stands out. I ran three different brands through it the other day and all seemed about the same. I have a couple bricks of 30 year old Remington Kleanbore that shoots well and is like new after all these years. Always kept it dry and in the house.

                            Kurt
                            As the late Turner Kirkland was fond of saying, "If you want good oats, you have to pay the price. If you'll take oats that have already been through the horse, those come cheaper."

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