Will the dis-assembly procedure for an "COLT - Official Police Revolver"

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  • jjrothWA
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 1148

    #1

    Will the dis-assembly procedure for an "COLT - Official Police Revolver"

    located in the "Firearm Assembly II manual for the NRA, assist me in "detailing" a recent acquisition of a Colt Police Positive [not the Police Positive Special], 2nd variant, in ,38 Spl and 4" barrel?

    SN dated to May of 1929. [might be a "Banker Special, but barrel is marked "Police Positive"???]



    Cylinder gap measures 0.004", with feeler gauge. light rust fuzz on exterior but little firing, might have been put in a drawer after firing.

    Pick=up a HKS "DS-A" speed-loader and it works nicely.

    need to clean and oil this revolver.

    Thanks.
  • Parashooter
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 819

    #2
    Although the O.P. and the P.P. have different size frames, the lockwork is so similar that a guy who can fiddle one can play a tune on the other without much study.

    Lots of good (scary) information at http://www.coltfever.com/GUNSMITHING.html

    Of course, the classic .38 Police Positive (not Special) wasn't made in .38 Special as the cylinder is too short for that longer cartridge, being dimensioned for the stubby .38 New Police (AKA .38 S&W). Confusing because Specials were marked "Police Positive .38 Special" after the Dept. of Redundancy Department objected to "Police Positive Special .38 Special".

    (Banker's Special .38 was, inexplicably, not in .38 Spl. but rather in .38 N.P./S&W, being made on the short P.P. .38 frame. Stub-barrel .38 Spec. was named Detective Special.) Photo shows frame differences pretty clearly -


    Upper - Detective Special. Lower - Banker's Special

    Note the three Police Positive frame sizes in these pictures: .38 P.P.; .38 P.P.Spec. right side; left side; .32 P.P. - .22 WRF P.P. Target - .38 Banker's Special (early square butt).

    ColtPP38.jpgColtPPS.jpgColtPPS2.jpgColtPPos.jpg
    Last edited by Parashooter; 01-28-2019, 12:21.

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    • Sunray
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 3251

      #3
      Like Parashooter says, they're pretty much the same. A nightmare of small parts and wee tiny flat springs. Have a Police Positive in .32-20 I never should have opened.
      Spelling and grammar count!

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      • mike9905
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2011
        • 132

        #4
        Unless you are a skilled gunsmith don't pop off the sideplate on that Colt. I can gut a Smith & Wesson in my sleep, did it once on an older Colt and won't make that mistake again. It took a machinist to reassemble.

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        • jjrothWA
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 1148

          #5
          DID IT!

          no problems and it all went together.

          Thanks.

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