Picked up a nice Springfield 1922M1 sales rifle today

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  • Herschel
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 973

    #16
    I have checked my Springfield Research Data and #17910 is not listed. They are finding new serial numbers so perhaps later discovered serial numbers could include your rifle.
    To obtain data from SRS you first must be a subscriber to U. S. Martial Arms Collector magazine. The cost is $35.00 per year which gets you four magazines.

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    email address: editor@usmartialarmscollector.com
    Last edited by Herschel; 05-02-2016, 11:04.

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    • gewehrfreund
      Junior Member
      • May 2016
      • 11

      #17
      Originally posted by Herschel
      The DCM Club Issue 1922M1 and the NRA Sales Variation 1922M1 are in the same configuration. The difference is that the DCM Club Issue has a parkerized barrel and the NRA Sales 1922M1 has a blued barrel.
      1922M1 serial number 17910 appears in SRS records close to some DCM club issue rifle serial numbers. I say they are Club Issue as SRS records indicate the rifles were shipped to or received from rifle clubs.
      Since the DCM Club Issue rifle would have been in govt inventory it possible could have been through rebuild and be all parkerized. If so there should be rebuild cartouches on the left side of the stock.
      Thanks. As I say, I don't have the rifle in hand yet, so am not aware that there are any stock cartouches. I didn't see any in the pictures. The metal finish looked "dull" for lack of a better word, except out near the muzzle end, the last couple of inches which did look like polished blue.

      Waiting on a "new" rifle is almost harder than trying to find one to begin with!

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      • Herschel
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 973

        #18
        My post above may not be clear about serial number 17910. That number does not appear in my SRS data. Serial numbers close to 17910 are shown to have been shipped to or received from rifle clubs.
        I agree with your comment about waiting for a new rifle. Time drags by while awaiting it's arrival.

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        • gewehrfreund
          Junior Member
          • May 2016
          • 11

          #19
          When I get it, I'll report back on what it reveals.

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          • Kragrifle
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 1161

            #20
            Also of note, the 1922M1 rifles will have the M1 style, long travel bolt. The sales rifles will have been refitted with the short travel M2 bolt. Also, the Lyman rear sight numbers will match on an original 1922M1, whereas the sight numbers always seem to be mismatched on the altered 1922MII ( 1922M1 altered to M2 bolt) rifles.
            Serial numbers etched on the original bolts match the rifle serial number. 1922MII rifles may or may not be numbered to the rifles.

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            • gewehrfreund
              Junior Member
              • May 2016
              • 11

              #21
              This is definitely an unaltered M1 with the early bolt (not M2 upgrade), but has the NRA stock. I'll add a picture or two from the seller when I get home.

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              Last edited by gewehrfreund; 05-03-2016, 02:46.

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              • gewehrfreund
                Junior Member
                • May 2016
                • 11

                #22
                So, I've had this rifle for a while now and have had it apart and cleaned it up and inspected it. It's a bit a head-scratcher.
                It's pretty obvious that it's a DCM club rifle based on features, finish and serial number. But despite the receiver being D&T for a scope base (and it looks original to my eye), the barrel is not!? The barrel date of 8-30 would seem to jibe with the serial number, so it seems unlikely that it's a rebarrel.

                Anyway, I still haven't had it to the range yet, but will soon. We'll see how it shoots, then I'll decide whether to go ahead and D&T the barrel. I have the correct bases waiting to be used.

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                • Herschel
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 973

                  #23
                  For what it's worth: I have NRA Sales 1922M1 with serial number 19376 with barrel date of 9-29.
                  I have NRA Sales 1922M1 with serial number 19468 with barrel date of 3-30.
                  I have NRA Sales 1922M1 with serial number 19582 with barrel date of 11-29.
                  All three of these have the barrels drilled and tapped for the front scope block.

                  The barrel on a DCM Club Issue Rifle should be drilled and tapped for the front scope block. I think the barrel is a replacement that was installed
                  quite a bit later than 1930. Of course this is just an educated guess.
                  Last edited by Herschel; 05-14-2016, 07:38.

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                  • Kragrifle
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 1161

                    #24
                    I have a barrel that has been drilled and tapped-I think it is a 1926 date if interested in a swap.

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                    • gewehrfreund
                      Junior Member
                      • May 2016
                      • 11

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Herschel
                      For what it's worth: I have NRA Sales 1922M1 with serial number 19376 with barrel date of 9-29.
                      I have NRA Sales 1922M1 with serial number 19468 with barrel date of 3-30.
                      I have NRA Sales 1922M1 with serial number 19582 with barrel date of 11-29.
                      All three of these have the barrels drilled and tapped for the front scope block.

                      The barrel on a DCM Club Issue Rifle should be drilled and tapped for the front scope block. I think the barrel is a replacement that was installed
                      quite a bit later than 1930. Of course this is just an educated guess.
                      Yes, that would explain it. It just doesn't look like it has been messed with at all (no marks on the barrel etc.), but that doesn't rule out a barrel change. I just can't imagine why a rifle this robust would need a different barrel, short of some major catastrophe.

                      Looks like my D&T skills are going to get tested again.

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                      • gewehrfreund
                        Junior Member
                        • May 2016
                        • 11

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Kragrifle
                        I have a barrel that has been drilled and tapped-I think it is a 1926 date if interested in a swap.
                        Thanks for the offer, but creating my own holes sounds a lot easier than switching barrels.

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                        • gewehrfreund
                          Junior Member
                          • May 2016
                          • 11

                          #27
                          Originally posted by gewehrfreund
                          Yes, that would explain it. It just doesn't look like it has been messed with at all (no marks on the barrel etc.), but that doesn't rule out a barrel change. I just can't imagine why a rifle this robust would need a different barrel, short of some major catastrophe.

                          Looks like my D&T skills are going to get tested again.
                          Well, right or not, it's a shooter! i did some initial shooting/ammo testing on Friday morning and at the end, I decided to try one of the best performing ammos at 100yd. With the original aperture sights and my aging eyes, I was able to put 5 Federal Match (the older dimpled 900B) into 1 3/16" . The last 4 went into 13/16".
                          I'm not unhappy . . .

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