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  • Art
    Senior Member, Deceased
    • Dec 2009
    • 9256

    #16
    I have bayonets for all of my milsurps except my M1 Carbine. all of them have slings on them. All have the appropriate cleaning/maintenance kits. I have cartridge belts or ammo carriers for all my USGI weapons. I also have some period appropriate helmets. Yep. I like militaria; our son likes it more, the only thing he lacks to gear up and hit the beach at Normandy is the shirt, trousers, belt and shoes. Rifle, cartridge belt, musette bag, helmet, bayonet, canteen, first aid kit...he's got all that stuff. Well I guess he could use an E=Tool too.
    Last edited by Art; 09-13-2016, 01:44.

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    • JB White
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 13371

      #17
      I suspect, but do not know, that the pre-1905 manufactured Mills thing was used by Canadian troops. I know it's pre-1905 and the only record I have for what became Mills gear was used by Canadians.
      Wasn't there a Mills web sling trialed for the US trapdoor?
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      • 5MadFarmers
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2009
        • 2815

        #18
        Originally posted by JB White
        Wasn't there a Mills web sling trialed for the US trapdoor?
        Yes but not really gun specific. Just after the turn of the century.



        Not terribly different from the Brit one.



        A Savage gun at the same time.



        I wouldn't assume that sling is on that gun as that was a decade ago.

        I'll bore you with the history of the Enfield. At that time I was just looking at gun technology. Lee is of local interest as he made his first gun in a place just south of where I live. Then, due to whatever, he moved an hour east and tried to succeed there. That meeting with lukewarm success he headed for the gun making region out east. The guns made here are of local interest and pop up from time to time. So, to people here anyway, Lees have an extra interest.

        The place where he made his first gun is probably better known as the main plant for Hormel Chili.
        Last edited by 5MadFarmers; 09-13-2016, 08:03.

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        • p246
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2013
          • 2216

          #19
          I have bayonets, slings, Oilers, pull cords for all my Lee Enfields (WW1 and 2 rifles to include cruciform for early No 4 mark 1). I need a sling for the M1917 and M95 Swede. I need a Bayonet for the 30 carbine I just got. I have a few helmets and odds and ends but don't go actively looking for them. My M1 Garand bayonets are all cut downs. I had some uncut versions but another collector waived too much cash so they went....moment of weakness.

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          • JB White
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 13371

            #20
            Yes but not really gun specific. Just after the turn of the century.
            That's the sling I was thinking of. Thank you.

            The place where he made his first gun is probably better known as the main plant for Hormel Chili.
            I know exactly where that is, as it's visible from the interstate on my way to Janesville. Never made the connection between canned chili and JP Lee!
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            • 5MadFarmers
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2009
              • 2815

              #21
              Originally posted by JB White
              That's the sling I was thinking of. Thank you.
              No problem. They've been redone now so the fakes are showing up everywhere.

              I know exactly where that is, as it's visible from the interstate on my way to Janesville. Never made the connection between canned chili and JP Lee!
              That'd be it. When Lee was there he ordered, not being terribly familiar with guns, considerably too much powder. No way to easily move it to Milwaukee so he left it behind when he moved. Hormel located there as the available powder is what gives the chili its' zing.

              The guns made in Milwaukee are highly sought after here. These:

              Lee Arms Milwaukee

              They do show up here so I suspect they were peddled out of Milwaukee after the war.

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              • JB White
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 13371

                #22
                I thought the wives tale trick to making a mean junkyard dog was putting gunpowder in his food, and I've heard Hormel being called dog food so.... Let's not go there

                Interesting arm. Don't recall ever seeing one on the loose. If I did I likely didn't recognize it for what it was.
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                • John Sukey
                  Very Senior Member - OFC Deceased
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 12224

                  #23
                  Got the collecting bug many years ago. 1944 BSA WM20, and a Cushman airborne,
                  Cartridge belts in 577-450 and .303
                  lots of grenades
                  2 inch mortar
                  Vickers
                  Bren
                  Sten
                  Webleys
                  and LOTS of SMLE'S and No4's
                  Don't need anymore

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                  • John Sukey
                    Very Senior Member - OFC Deceased
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 12224

                    #24
                    One final bit, got the uniform of the general who was in command of the evacuation of the troops at Dunkirk. His wife had thrown it in the rubbish tip to be burned and a friend rescued it.
                    Last edited by John Sukey; 10-06-2016, 04:19.

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                    • JB White
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 13371

                      #25
                      Originally posted by John Sukey
                      One final bit, got the uniform of the general who was in command of the evacuation of the troops at Dunkirk. His wife had thrown it in the rubbish tip to be burned and a friend rescued it.
                      I got hold of a 1918 dated Prussian shako the same way. My father visited the widow of an old friend and saw her tossing it in the trash. Asked what she was doing she told him she was finally cleaning out all her late husbands old junk. He snagged it telling her I collected that kind of junk and asked where the rest of it was. Went out in the trash the week before. arrggg!

                      I still have that shako in the cabinet on display with a Prussian 98/05 bayonet crossing the helmet stand.
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                      • John Sukey
                        Very Senior Member - OFC Deceased
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 12224

                        #26
                        One more question. Anybody else have the bayonet for a 455 Webley?
                        Or for that matter, the shoulder stock holster for their HiPower?

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                        • John Sukey
                          Very Senior Member - OFC Deceased
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 12224

                          #27
                          OK, since we are talking bayonets, anyone else have a Webley bayonet? (for the revolver)

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