Question on rear sling swivel ?

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  • RCS
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 2180

    #1

    Question on rear sling swivel ?

    My photo shows a early Mark 1*** or Mark III cut-off, a steel but plate for the Mark 1 or Mark 1* and
    a rear sling swivel.

    Have received different answers concerning the identity of the rear sling swivel, can someone I.D. it.

    Thanks,

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  • JB White
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 13371

    #2
    Looks like the earlier swivel from the Lee Metford and early Long Lee Enfield rifles.
    The buttplate appears to be the sheet metal type sans trap from a run of MLE MkI*'s
    The cutoff is more towards the SMLE. Below is a photo of cutoffs from the early type used on the left, and the SMLE MkIII type on the right.




    What have you heard from elsewhere?
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    • Merc
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2016
      • 1690

      #3
      I saw one for sale on eBay. Look under "Enfield sling swivels." Guy from Australia is selling it and said it's for a long Lee Enfield 303 MLE.
      Last edited by Merc; 01-11-2017, 01:51.

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      • p246
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2013
        • 2216

        #4
        I have a Mk 1* converted to a bayonet training rifle. The cut off in it looks exactly like yours and the one JB posted on the left he indicates is a Mk 1*. The sling swivel also looks the same as one I have in my parts bin and I have been told its for a Long Lee. JB has never led me wrong so I'm confident he's right. The guy I bought the swivel from used to collect long lees and L.E. carbines exclusively and knew his stuff also.
        Last edited by p246; 01-11-2017, 10:08.

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        • RCS
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 2180

          #5
          Mark 1* rear sling swivel

          I got this Mark I*** from a friend that worked at Gun Digest many years ago, What caught my eye was the Mark 1 stock with the early
          single screw sling swivel. As the serial number is G 839 (third serial number on the receiver, first two lined out) it could have been a
          set-up to use rifle grenades and then rebuilt back to Mark I*** as there is faint wire wrap markings on the rear handguard, Fore-end is
          modified Mark IIIP1010046_0046.jpgP1010048_0048.jpg

          The Mark 1 swivel is different from the one in my first post (also some Martini rear swivels look a little like this one too)

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          • JB White
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 13371

            #6
            You are on track surmising your MkI*** was probably a grenade rifle with the G prefix. The ER prefix rifles were typically left in MkI trim while the CR prefixed ones were upgraded to an SMLE profile.
            There is a rather lengthy sticky thread over on Gunboards describing the differences and a few of the anomalies. "Fritz" is the go-to guy over there when it comes to Irish rifles.

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