British .22RF Training Rifles

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  • Alan De Enfield
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 152

    #31
    Originally posted by Johan412th
    Thanks for solid answer. This l42a1 absolutely fascinates me. Are they hard to find?

    If you have $15,000 you should be able to find one, at $10,000 you may find one & if you have $5000 then you wont find any.
    There were 1000 made and they were (pretty much) all sold into the USA when they were sold out of service. They are now slowly starting to filter back into the UK but if you are in the US and have the $ then you should find one.

    * L42 rifles are not generally sold 'on their own' they normally have the transit case and accessories, you may have seen recently (on ebay) the small plastic bottle that holds the lens cleaning brush, sell for about $800+

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    • Johan412th
      Senior Member
      • May 2014
      • 110

      #32
      We'll then. I'll just forget about getting one. I feel sufficiently schooled, Alan.
      "I only get paid if I survive... And I like getting paid."

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      • John Sukey
        Very Senior Member - OFC Deceased
        • Aug 2009
        • 12224

        #33
        Have L39A1, L42A1 and out of curiosity, how many folks have a No.8?

        I have that small plastic bottle and cleaning brush but I only paid a few dollars/pounds for mine

        Bought the L42 and L39 while they were still crossing the Atlantic. Guessing they were all sold before the ship was unloaded

        While I was at it, picked up an L59A1 at the same time
        Last edited by John Sukey; 05-07-2014, 10:38.

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        • Alan De Enfield
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 152

          #34
          Originally posted by John Sukey
          Bought the L42 and L39 while they were still crossing the Atlantic. Guessing they were all sold before the ship was unloaded

          While I was at it, picked up an L59A1 at the same time
          I if remember correctly they were onboard "The Ark" with Captain Noah, and Pontius was the Pilot

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          • Kragrifle
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 1161

            #35
            What is a No 5?

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            • dave
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 6778

              #36
              No one has mentioned the 42MB model, many were sold in the US in the '60's. It is the only Brit trainer I own.
              You can never go home again.

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              • JB White
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 13371

                #37
                Originally posted by Kragrifle
                What is a No 5?
                The No5 rifle is what some call a "jungle carbine". Normally in 303 but a very few rare examples were made up in .22.

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                • fjruple
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 175

                  #38
                  Originally posted by johnny l.
                  I bought one of the Numrich .22 kits for my WW1 No.lll Enfield. It installed very easily and is fun to shoot. It is a single shot, no magazine. I did replace the steel nut for a brass one. I feel this will be easier on the crown. I have had no problems and it is an easy conversion.

                  Does anyone know if this kit can be made to fit the WW2 No. lV Enfield? I am not sure if the barrel length and .22 bolts are compatable. Regards, Johnny Lawson
                  Johnny--

                  I had purchase several of these conversion kit over the years to conversion military rifles to single .22LR rifles. I did and still have a No.4 MK2 that I converted. Obviously I could not use the bolt in the No.4 MK2 and acquired a Canadian No.7 MKI .22LR bolt to used in the rifle. I also placed a No.7MKI follower in the rifle for catching the spent cases.

                  I also used two kits .22LR barrel tubes to modified a M1 Rifle and M1A to single shot .22LR for indoor practice during the off season. Both of those rifles have highly modified bolts to feed, fire and extract the .22LR cartridge.

                  Cheers

                  --fjruple

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                  • M2Phil
                    Member
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 95

                    #39
                    [QUOTE=Alan De Enfield;367580]If you have $15,000 you should be able to find one, at $10,000 you may find one & if you have $5000 then you wont find any./QUOTE]

                    Is this really what L42A1's are going for now? If so, wow.

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                    • johnny l.
                      Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 38

                      #40
                      fjruple - Thanks for the info. I am now looking for a Canadian No. 7 MKI .22 cal. bolt. If you have any ideas, please let me know. I shoot my converted SMLE out to 100 yds and am very pleased with its accuracy. Regards, Johnny Lawson

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                      • terrylee
                        Member
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 40

                        #41
                        As the owner of an L42A1 with CES and other British 7.62mm conversions, I believe that I am qualified to pass comment on this rifle. As shooters I believe that the L42s are grossly overpriced and are not even in the same class as their close relative, the Enfield Enforcer. As historic collector's pieces they probably have more value. But here again, most is probably based upon the current "Sniper Rifle Craze". This, like most fads, is likely to pass leaving recent owners with an over-priced second class rifle.
                        Last edited by terrylee; 04-16-2017, 12:13.

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                        • fjruple
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 175

                          #42
                          Originally posted by johnny l.
                          fjruple - Thanks for the info. I am now looking for a Canadian No. 7 MKI .22 cal. bolt. If you have any ideas, please let me know. I shoot my converted SMLE out to 100 yds and am very pleased with its accuracy. Regards, Johnny Lawson
                          Johnny -- If you are just looking for one to convert a No.4 MKI/MKI* or MK2 to .22LR. All you really need is the complete CNo.7 MKI bolt head. The normal .303 firing pin can be modified to work in the normal .303 bolt and depending on your machining skills you can modify the standard No.4 MKI bolt head and extractor to shoot .22LR. The only tools that you only need is access to a good drill press, a Dremel motor tool, a welder, and carbide drill bits and drill stock to make the .22LR firing pins. I have seen CNo.7 MKI bolts for sale on Ebay ocassionally.

                          Cheers

                          --fjruple
                          Last edited by fjruple; 04-15-2017, 04:39.

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                          • johnny l.
                            Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 38

                            #43
                            fjruple, Thank You for the info. I will be looking for this. The welding is the only issue for me. However, I am sure there is a good welder in Sierra Vista. Thanks again. Regards, Johnny Lawson

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                            • Richardrose
                              Member
                              • Jan 2016
                              • 34

                              #44
                              Hi, A lot has been said about the Brit .22s They did not always follow what has been written about the .22s. I have seen several No.2 mk4 made clear into the 1950s. I have a very little used No.2 mk4 , a 1918 which has a B.S.A. barrel it is marked 1955 rebuild. It is super accurate. magazine is filled with a block of soft wood. It is fun to watch people think it is going to have a loud report and it goes pop. Its a fine gun.

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