Greek .303 Brit ammo value

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  • Johan412th
    Senior Member
    • May 2014
    • 110

    #1

    Greek .303 Brit ammo value

    I was recently given a rather large stash of Greek .303 British ball ammo. About 500 rounds, with 300 still sealed in the case. I'm curious as to the value and longevity of the 300 rounds still sealed. I will probably never open it, as I know it's a piece of history that can never be replaced. But then again, I'm nostalgic for relics of the free world...
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  • Art
    Senior Member, Deceased
    • Dec 2009
    • 9256

    #2
    A lot depends on how it was stored before you got it. With good storage in the sealed can.....probably at least 70 years. After that you could have problems ranging from hang-fires and duds to erratic pressures and/or cracked cases. I'll shoot milsurp ammo manufactured in the 50s if it passes the "smell test." Past that, I figure its best just to pull the bullets and use them in reloads. As hard as bullets are to find for some military calibers I think the bullets from really old military ammo are probably worth more than the intact cartridge!!

    There are varying opinions on this one though and you'll get other input.
    Last edited by Art; 07-20-2014, 04:43.

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    • JBinIll
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2010
      • 5608

      #3
      Is it the HXP headstamped stuff?I had a bunch of that hoarded back and it got stolen.It was dated 72,boxer primed,reloadable,not cordite loaded either.
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      • Johan412th
        Senior Member
        • May 2014
        • 110

        #4
        Yessir, hxp 75. Blue marking around the primers.
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        • joem
          Senior Member, Deceased
          • Aug 2009
          • 11835

          #5
          I've shot powder and bullets from 1943 &1944. All turkish stuff that I pulled down and loaded in my cases. I've been buying factory seconds for .303, 8mm, .223 and .308. My friend buys .45ACP & .44 bullets for .44mag.
          Last edited by joem; 07-20-2014, 11:37.

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          • JBinIll
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2010
            • 5608

            #6
            Originally posted by Johan412th
            Yessir, hxp 75. Blue marking around the primers.
            That's excellent ammo.Non-corrosive,Boxer primed,reload able cases.It is NOT loaded with cordite,if I remember from one I pulled a bullet on it is a ball type powder.Top dollar surplus .303 ammo and people are asking .60c to .75c a round for that POF corrosive berdan primed junk.
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            • Johan412th
              Senior Member
              • May 2014
              • 110

              #7
              Originally posted by JBinIll
              That's excellent ammo.Non-corrosive,Boxer primed,reload able cases.It is NOT loaded with cordite,if I remember from one I pulled a bullet on it is a ball type powder.Top dollar surplus .303 ammo and people are asking .60c to .75c a round for that POF corrosive berdan primed junk.
              Well that's Definately good news! I'm hoping it lasts me quite a while.
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              • JB White
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 13371

                #8
                If you want to save some, then by all means do it. Personally, if it were mine, I'd shoot it in my best rifle as a treat to myself. The HXP is probably as close as you'll ever get to the now nearly extinct WCC '81 which was surplused off in the 90's. I had a pair of rifles which would print about an inch with that batch.
                I regret having shot it all up now...wishing I had held at least some back. However I had the best time impressing myself and others at how well a few of my rifles could actually shoot using surplus ball ammo.
                If you have a great shooter, treat it once in a while. You'll never be able to retire on saving the ammo, but you can retire with the memories of how great it used to be...instead of cursing the fact it turned bad before you had the chance.
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                • Johan412th
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2014
                  • 110

                  #9
                  Thanks JB. I'm shooting it in my BSA no.1 mk3, but I plan on keeping some for down the road. It's a treat to shoot, but with every shot I take, I know I can't get it back. I can reload, but it's not the same. I'm proud of my piece of history, and I'll enjoy every minute I get with it. I recently found out about the whole Greek civil war, and how they ended up with all the British weaponry. Truly dark times for them, but glad they had British support.
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                  • Sunray
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 3251

                    #10
                    Cordite hasn't been used since before W.W. I.
                    Greek ammo is for shooting. Not much collector interest or value.
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                    • Art
                      Senior Member, Deceased
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 9256

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Sunray
                      Cordite hasn't been used since before W.W. I.
                      Greek ammo is for shooting. Not much collector interest or value.
                      Cordite was used for rifle caliber ammunition by the U.K. at least through WWII, though production shortfalls caused the widespread use of other propellants by the Brits for rifle ammunition in both world wars. I, quite a while back, purchased some 1930s Kynoch commercial Mk VII ball ammunition and military Kynoch Mk VII ball from the mid '40s. I pulled the bullets from both lots to use in reloads as there were hangfires with them and all of them were indeed loaded with cordite. If Mk VII ammunition is not loaded with cordite it usually has a suffix behind the VII like a "z," at least until the late 1930s - mid 1940s when cordite was largely, but not completely, replaced for small arms use and the suffix was generally thought unnecessary. I actually found some Yugoslav manufactured ammo headstamped Mk VIIz produced in the late 1960s, very high quality stuff.

                      By the end of WWI cordite's real niche was as an artillery propellant and sometimes rocket fuel. These uses undoubtedly contributed to the shortages for rifle and machine gun ammunition. The last U.K. factory producing cordite closed less than 20 ago so it was around for a long, long time after its use as a rifle propellant ended.
                      Last edited by Art; 07-21-2014, 05:31. Reason: Completeness, clarity

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                      • joem
                        Senior Member, Deceased
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 11835

                        #12
                        Some years ago I bought some cases of .303 and a couple of them were loaded with cordite. Pulled the bullets and scraped the cases.

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                        • Parashooter
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 819

                          #13
                          Radway Green, Mk7, 1953


                          1953

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                          • Johan412th
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2014
                            • 110

                            #14
                            Here's some photos... So is 75 the year or batch?
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                            • JBinIll
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 5608

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Sunray
                              Cordite hasn't been used since before W.W. I.
                              Greek ammo is for shooting. Not much collector interest or value.
                              I've got some 45 dated Kynoch that says otherwise.
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