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  • collectorm1ca
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    • Aug 2009
    • 55

    #1

    USMC Faux Snipers almost competed

    I've almost completed building my two 1903 Faux USMC Sniper rifles. One is a 1.4 million SA with a new SA 3-39 barrel and the other is a 3.2 Remington with a new 6-42 barrel. Both of these rifles I built up from a couple of nasty barreled receivers I had. Except for the scope blocks and the Hi-Lux Unertl copy I had all parts on hand, including the barrels, Keystone stocks, the Unertl scope and Unertl rings on the Hi-Lux scope. I did the parkerizing (first ever attempt) on all parts except for the barrels, the bolt on the 1.4 SA, a couple of the bolt parts and the rear sights. The only work I sourced out was the D&T on the scope blocks. This includes the sculpting of the bolt on the Remington to clear the scope. No need to do the SA bolt since the real Unertl is sleeved and it sits slightly higher.

    Both rifles shoot very well out to 600 yards. The target below was shot at 200 yards from position with a sling. Two five shot groups; the 1.4 SA shots (w/flyer) are on the left and the 3.2 Remington on the right. Both shot using Hornady Garand Match ammo, before I had a chance to work on some custom loads.

    Since the rifles were built using almost entirely parts on hand, acquired when parts were cheap, I was able to build both rifles for just under 2K total (not each), including the Hi-Lux scope.

    Sorry for the large pics.







    Last edited by collectorm1ca; 06-11-2012, 08:15.
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  • McCormickDeering M
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    • Nov 2011
    • 33

    #2
    Beautiful rifles. Very beautiful. Where did you get the scope blocks?

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    • collectorm1ca
      Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 55

      #3
      Originally posted by McCormickDeering M
      Beautiful rifles. Very beautiful. Where did you get the scope blocks?
      Steven Earle; http://steveearleproducts.com/
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      • powerwagon
        Junior Member
        • Apr 2011
        • 8

        #4
        they are beautiful weapons.. great job

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        • George in NH
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 416

          #5
          Wow!
          Great job! Makes me want to start on a build of my own! I made up a 03AForgery with the Lyman Alaskan. I have had it out twice to sniper shoots 3/600 and it shoots smaller groups than I can hold!
          George in NH

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          • GillaFunk
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            • Jul 2011
            • 69

            #6
            Sexy!
            "America is not at war. The Marine Corps is at war; America is at the mall."

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            • collectorm1ca
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              • Aug 2009
              • 55

              #7
              Originally posted by George in NH
              I made up a 03AForgery with the Lyman Alaskan. I have had it out twice to sniper shoots 3/600 and it shoots smaller groups than I can hold!
              George in NH
              My 03AForgery shoots pretty good also. But the 8X scopes are a little easier to shoot with.

              Last edited by collectorm1ca; 06-12-2012, 03:29.
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              • jgaynor
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2009
                • 1287

                #8
                You did a nice job on both them. What is the purpose of the sleeve on the Unertl Scope?

                Regards,
                Jim

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                • collectorm1ca
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                  • Aug 2009
                  • 55

                  #9
                  Thank you, Jim. And, thanks to all who have replied.

                  I'm really not sure why the scope is sleeved. I found it and a few other Unertls in a gun shop in South Dakota while driving home from Camp Perry this past summer. The seller only knew it was, "sleeved and the power ring is sealed." Maybe there is wear and/or damage to the tube? The sleeve is stainless so possibly it's to prevent wear, or just allow it to slide better? It really does slide smoothly. I can see why they would seal the power ring to prevent moisture from entering. I'm a member of a Unertl users group and have been intending to ask.
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                  • jmm03
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 178

                    #10
                    Mike, very nice work on your rifles,would you care to tell me who you sent them to for the block mounting? I'm thinking of building myself one and would appreciate someones recommendation on a smith with 03 experience. Regards, Jim McGuinness

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                    • collectorm1ca
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                      • Aug 2009
                      • 55

                      #11
                      Jim, The gentleman who D&T'ed for the blocks is a retired gunsmith who is a friend of a friend. He's getting up there in years and after he finished mine he told me he never wants to see another set! lol So I don't think he intends to do anymore.

                      I think chuckindenver (here on this forum) does them.
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                      • jmm03
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                        • Sep 2009
                        • 178

                        #12
                        Thanks anyway Mike, I live up in Ventura,so I was hopeful of finding someone more local. Regards, jim

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                        • Jim in Salt Lake
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                          • Aug 2009
                          • 854

                          #13
                          Chuck did mine and the shipping is pretty easy, just do what he tells you. All I had to ship him was the bare barreled action and the scope and blocks. When it came back, my hundred yard zero was just a few clicks off the bottom and the windage on a no wind day was pretty much centered in the ring. I'm happy, I ended up with having the maximum useful elevation and windage adjustments available. I'm not much of a metal worker so I bought one of his A4orgery bolts. Had a SHT bolt that barely cleared the scope at the 100 yard elevation setting. Don't let the shipping hold you up, it's pretty easy.

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                          • collectorm1ca
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                            • Aug 2009
                            • 55

                            #14
                            Jim in Salt Lake,
                            I've been waiting for your post on how your rifle shot in the mid-range matches you mentioned in the other thread. So, what's the report/verdict?
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                            • Jim in Salt Lake
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                              • Aug 2009
                              • 854

                              #15
                              Hi Collector, I've shot two mid range matches now. Still fighting some problems but when everything is tight, the rifle easily holds the x ring if I read the wind right (and that's a challenge here!). When something loosens up, I'll get a shot that goes 2-3 minutes up or down. The first thing I fixed was replacing the Chinese screws that came with the scope blocks. With good American steel, the blocks no longer loosen up. I'm now fighting the front ring loosening up. The Leatherwood blocks are made of soft steel. I tighten the mounts on the blocks with a screwdriver but the blocks will gall after 30-40 shots and the front mount gets loose. Leatherwood is sending me new mount screws that they say are harder steel. I've ordered new scope blocks from http://steveearleproducts.com/scopeblocks.html. I knew about Steve earlier but Leatherwood sent me there when I asked if they had blocks made with harder steel. Steve's blocks are case hardened and I'm hoping have the same hole pattern as the Leatherwood blocks. I gave Steve the hole spacing measurements and he thinks his blocks will fit. If the new Leatherwood mount screws are still soft, I'll go buy American ones. The one thing that keeps me working through these issues is that the optic quality of the scope is fabulous. A buddy of mine has a 12X Unertl and this Leatherwood is its equal. I'm also not having any trouble with the external adjustments. They're repeatable and consistent. I'm confident I can get past this loosening up issue. When things are tight, this rifle is an absolute hammer and a joy to shoot. I'm pushing 60 and having real problems shooting an AR in Service Rifle so this new game is giving me an alternative. My son is turning 21 next spring and I'll probably give him my AR as he won't be able to use the state junior rifle he has now. Sorry I haven't reported back earlier, I was holding off until I got to the bottom of these loosening up issues. I still plan to take the rifle back to Camp Perry and have my two junior shooters use it there.

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