M40 Rifle Question

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  • Chris F
    Member
    • Dec 2009
    • 40

    #16

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    • chuckindenver
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 3005

      #17
      nice pics,
      id like to see a closeup of the USP markings on the M40...
      looks like a private collection.
      iv seen a few types of USP markings.
      from roll stamped, hand stamped{ questionalble} and arc engraved. {genuine}
      most if not all M40,s had the barrels changed at sometime, would like to see the markings on the barrel as well.
      i know of 3 types of Redfield 1" tube scopes.
      my dads late friend worked ar Redfield, and had a straight 12 power in the green finish, and a 4x12 in the grey finish,
      as well as a 4 power green finish...until i went to the Rockisland museum, i couldnt figure what the military would want with a 4 power scope..then i saw the Ruger 1022,s select fire, and suppressed.
      they had cheesy bushnell 2 powers on them...ill bet the 4 powers were entended for them.
      if it aint broke...fix it till it finally is.

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      • Badgerord
        Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 97

        #18
        Chris, I know the 2112 that reworked Chucks rifle from a A1 back to a 40.

        There were several consultants on the M24 project including the original engineer of record for the M40 (M700 Sniper) program.

        The M40 in the pic is in a private collection, it was a prize gun awarded the the National Matches in the early 80's.

        According to Naval sources there were quite a few Redfield scopes found on the M40 over its life including:
        The Greeney Matte finish Duplex with the range finder
        The Black Matte finish Duplex with the range finder
        The Black Gloss finish Duplex with the range finder
        The Black Matte finish Widefield Duplex with the range finder
        The Greeney Matte finish Circle/dot reticle with the range finder
        This is not a complete list but all of these have been observed on issue rifles.

        Marty

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        • bd1
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2009
          • 2245

          #19
          That's some great stuff on that wall. I know "improvements" came along for the M40, such as swapping in a Win M70 steel floorplate + armorer-made steel triggerguard, but that original one is a spitting image of a '60's commercial Rem 700 "Varmint Special" except it's park'd instead of blued and it has a plain stock. I still have a pair of old .308 VS's from around '68, same barrel length (24") & contour, same hokey flat "crown," still shoot like a house afire. Dial up the glass, hold hard, they'll take a turkey's head clean off at 200 meters.

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          • Badgerord
            Member
            • Sep 2009
            • 97

            #20
            BD1
            Very astute, the M700 Sniper was in fact just a Parkerized Varmint rifle, with the factory addition of the scope, Rings/Base and the rest os the initial issue kit, case, sling, cleaning kit.

            The configuration management document for the M700 Sniper has all the same P/N's as the varmint, just calls out a different finish and the rest of the kit.

            Marty

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            • Mike in Wis.
              Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 31

              #21
              Originally posted by Badgerord
              According to Naval sources there were quite a few Redfield scopes found on the M40 over its life including:
              The Greeney Matte finish Duplex with the range finder
              The Black Matte finish Duplex with the range finder
              The Black Gloss finish Duplex with the range finder
              The Black Matte finish Widefield Duplex with the range finder
              The Greeney Matte finish Circle/dot reticle with the range finder
              This is not a complete list but all of these have been observed on issue rifles.
              I have a c.1970 Matte Black Accu-Range with a thin plain crosshair reticle...

              Marty ... are you going to be doing another calendar ?
              --

              "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote!" - Benjamin Franklin

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              • Badgerord
                Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 97

                #22
                Mike,

                I will do another calendar after the book is done.
                I hope to have the book done in 2010.

                Marty

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                • Chris F
                  Member
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 40

                  #23
                  Marty,
                  Sounds like we may have a friend or two in common! Can't wait to get the book. I'll have to ask why they finished that M40 in a gloss coat...when I catch up.

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                  • ordnance
                    Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 34

                    #24
                    Chuck,

                    Here's a close up of the markings on the M40 in the collection of the Oregon Military Museum. This is a totally original Vietnam era gun that came back in the personal effects of a Marine sniper that was KIA.



                    Rick

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                    • chuckindenver
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 3005

                      #25
                      thats a pretty early rifle, id say about 1966 maybe 67..
                      mines a 1969 1970 rifle..
                      i doubt mine ever left the US. and likely was used my the Wy game and fish.
                      i wounder if Remington would have a record on that rifle..??have to checked with them?
                      or get a dispo, on it through the arcives.
                      look forward to your book when its done....
                      how is the barrel marked??does it have the Remington logo, and 7.62mm stamped over or next to .308??? got me all giddy..
                      if it aint broke...fix it till it finally is.

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                      • bd1
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 2245

                        #26
                        Remington, when it was Ilion, used to have a "historian." Seems like her name was Pauline or similar, but don't hold me to that. She knew everything. I don't know whether she made the move when Cerberus bought out the assets and moved the plant South. It'd be worth a try.

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                        • chuckindenver
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 3005

                          #27
                          when i was doing some searching for info on my USP parked 700.
                          the lady i spoke with had some info, date made, ect, and only shipped to the a Federal depot.
                          but, didnt know or wouldnt say if it was US military, what she told me is that many 700,s and other Remington arms that were marked USP, were sent to other Gov, branches,
                          from the ROTC program, to the US Martials, Border patrol ect,
                          and not just the US military.
                          many 700,s were sent to state Game and fish depts, were the Game and fish officers were a Federal officer, and not just a state officer..
                          only a select few states, do this,
                          AK, WY, ID, and a few others that are rual and sparce populations..{guessing} do this..
                          last fall, i hunted in WY, and the game and fish officer that checked us, liked my bus, card, and showed me his issued rifle,,,,a real M14 Winchester...gawd it was cool..
                          had been modified to semi auto only, but still cool...
                          said that they had a few USP Remingtons back in the late 70,s and early 80,s when i first signed on..
                          the USP marked 700 i have came from WY. likely it was a game and fish rifle, that had been modified a bit after service...
                          if it aint broke...fix it till it finally is.

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                          • Sgt Rock
                            Junior Member
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 14

                            #28
                            NO holes drilled in barrel of original M40. NONE.

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                            • 1shot
                              Member
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 64

                              #29
                              Three Family Members

                              Thought you maybe interested in looking at these. Top: M40A1, Middle: M40, and Bottom: USMC 1941

                              1shot
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                              • chuckindenver
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2009
                                • 3005

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Sgt Rock
                                NO holes drilled in barrel of original M40. NONE.
                                are you sure, 100% sure, youve looked all 2000 or so M40,s made ????
                                hmmmmm.
                                if it aint broke...fix it till it finally is.

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