Recently acquired M1903-A4

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  • Jon Field
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 191

    #1

    Recently acquired M1903-A4

    IMG_1421.jpgAccidentally bought this A4, hope I did ok!IMG_1411.jpg
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    Freedom is not free, the cost can be seen everyday, for it is engraved in marble, cast in bronze and highlighted with little American flags!
  • Jon Field
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 191

    #2
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    Freedom is not free, the cost can be seen everyday, for it is engraved in marble, cast in bronze and highlighted with little American flags!

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    • Jon Field
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 191

      #3
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      Freedom is not free, the cost can be seen everyday, for it is engraved in marble, cast in bronze and highlighted with little American flags!

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      • retread12345
        Member
        • Aug 2017
        • 96

        #4
        How can I accidentily buy one ??

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        • Jon Field
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 191

          #5
          Check good gun shows
          Freedom is not free, the cost can be seen everyday, for it is engraved in marble, cast in bronze and highlighted with little American flags!

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          • p246
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2013
            • 2216

            #6
            Originally posted by retread12345
            How can I accidentily buy one ??
            I tried this line with my wife, it did not work well.

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            • bruce
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 3759

              #7
              You did well! Sincerely. bruce.
              " Unlike most conservatives, libs have no problem exploiting dead children and dancing on their graves."

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              • Jon Field
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 191

                #8
                Thanks
                Freedom is not free, the cost can be seen everyday, for it is engraved in marble, cast in bronze and highlighted with little American flags!

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                • cplnorton
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 2194

                  #9
                  It's been through a full rebuild, which 99% of them have been, so that's normal. The cross cannon cartouche on the keystone stock is something that is different.

                  I can't see enough detail of the cartouche to tell if it's a legit cartouche or not. I've just never seen a cross cannon cartouche on a A4 before. I've seen a GAW with a cross cannon on some wartime rebuild M1903's. But I've never seen one just by itself that I can remember.

                  I do sort of think the scope has been messed with. Even though some books mention the M8's were used, there really isn't any evidence they were used by the military. Which almost all the A4's were sold without a scope, so most scopes on these have been added in the commercial market. But the fact that there is a serial number on this scope is what really bugs me. I think someone added those markings on the scope tube to pass the scope off as military scope.

                  I would be curious to see that cross cannon in more detail. Otherwise it looks like a honest rebuild A4 from the pics that I can see of it and a beautiful rifle at that!

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                  • Jon Field
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 191

                    #10
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                    Freedom is not free, the cost can be seen everyday, for it is engraved in marble, cast in bronze and highlighted with little American flags!

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                    • Jon Field
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 191

                      #11
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                      Freedom is not free, the cost can be seen everyday, for it is engraved in marble, cast in bronze and highlighted with little American flags!

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                      • Jon Field
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 191

                        #12
                        IMG_1474.jpg Remington wheel at its best, very faint.
                        Last edited by Jon Field; 04-23-2019, 01:34.
                        Freedom is not free, the cost can be seen everyday, for it is engraved in marble, cast in bronze and highlighted with little American flags!

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                        • Jon Field
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 191

                          #13
                          Stock markings

                          These are the only other markings on the stock, besides the Remington wheel and BA over 11 on the stock.IMG_1475.jpg

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                          I wonder what the 11 under the BA means other than Benecia Arsensal! That mark is also on the A-4 for sale on Gun Broker. Also, magazine cut off is not a Remington part, must of been changed during rebuild.
                          Last edited by Jon Field; 04-23-2019, 01:45.
                          Freedom is not free, the cost can be seen everyday, for it is engraved in marble, cast in bronze and highlighted with little American flags!

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                          • cplnorton
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 2194

                            #14
                            Hey I'm sorry I should have been more clear.

                            I know Remington used an ordnance wheel with the FJA and then RA later but usually the bells at the bottom of the cross cannons on all the A4's I've owned are different. Otherwise when I look at your cross cannon cartouche, it reminds me of the ones from Springfield and not the Remingtons I've owned.

                            The rest of the cartouches look ok. I'm just not sure on the ordnance wheel. I really am more into the Marine sniper rifles. I study the A4, but no where near what someone like Gaynor does. In fact I hope he comes around and comments. It might be ok. I'm just not sure on a Keystone stock if there could be a cross cannon stamp like that.

                            Here is the cross cannon on my A4. If you look and compare it, especially the bells of the cannons, there is a difference. Unfortunately my stamp got smacked in that spot. I will try to go back through my archived pics and find a clearer one.



                            Last edited by cplnorton; 04-24-2019, 12:40.

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                            • cplnorton
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 2194

                              #15
                              Here is a pic of one that is a little better to show the bells that I'm more used to seeing on them. I put it beside mine to compare.

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