DOH! Made a Dumb MIstake

[pelago]

I wonder, just wonder it there might be some retired guys still around that actually used either an A4 or a 1941, anywhere in WWII, probably have some Korean guys around, but WWII as we all know are just leaving us in huge numbers
Just lose a 'cruising buddy' Bob Turner, flew B17's over Europe in WWII, then retrained and flew B29's over Japan. I would have considered him a true hero, but i for one would like to meet some of these guys that used them, saw (forgot which station) on tv where the Army got a old retired sniper to a range and he shot an A4 to a steel target and first shot out of barrel he hit steel at 1000 yards.
that was so impressive, the man was in his 80's then if i am incorrect please correct me, but didnt they give him the rifle.
but these rifles are a fascinating topic, small part of US history, How the snipers of WWI just melted in to the woodwork and the rifles did also, then we got hammered and the USA had to start all over again
but for all of you guys, thanks for your input and stories, I have had some success going to library and requesting certain books, and darn they get em too
Ira
here is my attempt to copy the real deal

[jgaynor]

IRA try and lay your hands on a copy of the Journal of the Remington Society of America Fall 2004. 20 page article By Bill Hansen, "Snarls, Snafus and Snipers - Stories Behind the M1903A4 Sniper Rifle". Clear ly the best single source on A4 production. Clark Campbell's 2003 Edition also has worth while material. Brophy is solid but i don't think contract rifles were his main interest.

An excellent source on the Lyman scopes is The Grand Collectors Journal Fall 2004. The artlcle is by Bob Seijas and Johnny Bell and is entitled "M81 and M82 Telescopic Sights for the M1C Sniper". Despite the title some use of the scopes on A4's is covered and it is very valuable material.

The following link is the minutes of the committee that approved the A4 for production. See page 25 Para 6.:

http://www.nicolausassociates.com/PDF/M1903A4%20Sniper%20Rifle%20Adoption%20-%2010%20December%201942.pdf

Regards,
Jim

[chuckindenver]

Grossmans book has a lot of great scope pics on trial scopes on the 1917 , 1903, and 1903A4.

[pelago]

will take this list to library and ask them to go to UNC and pull books, they will do that and get the books from other states if they need to
thanks

[pelago]

see if i can post this right, Ted Gundy WWII sniper vet shoots 1000 yard shot

http://video.search.yahoo.com/video/play;_ylt=A2KLqIXrbDdSnk8A.Rf7w8QF;_ylu=X3oDMTByZWc0dGJtBHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDdmlkBHZ0aWQDBGdwb3MDMQ--?p=ImposShotTGundy.wmv&vid=91604c00a87264d086de8601e131dd4d&l=8%3A06&turl=http%3A%2F%2Fts2.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DV.5048138170435345%26pid%3D15.1&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DMQRpAxGVg4M&tit=ImposShotTGundy.wmv&c=0&sigr=11ailcm4q&age=0&&tt=b

not sure if i am doing this right but for you guys out there that are computer sharp should be able to get it

[rickgman]

I have personally seen USGI Lyman Alaskan scopes (M73 configuration). They were not marked as such but they had elevation and windage caps with USGI part numbers. Some were also obviously rebuilt since they were parkerized. The presence of 7/8" USGI rings indicates that use of M73, M81 and M82 scopes were intended for use on M1903A4's following rebuild.