dimensions for '41 sniper or better yet a true mechanical drawing

[pelago]

Numrich offered a poster of the A4 and i had one framed and put in my den next to gun cabinet. one for the '41 would be nice

anyone see or know location for a mechanical drawing of the 1941, particularly interested in the handguard. I feel that that is something I could do, but only with a drawing and some actual dimensions and measurements and not "wing it"
I have quite a bit of woodworking tools and have a drum sander stand alone type

[rickgman]

Ira, I might suggest looking through Brophy's book. He just might have had something like that included. Good luck! Rick

[jgaynor]

Senich's Marine scout sniper book has some pics you probably could use to scale the handguard dimensions.

[pelago]

Ira, I might suggest looking through Brophy's book. He just might have had something like that included. Good luck! Rick

i have a already damaged fore end piece for a 03, well actually have a couple and they would be good candidates for "trial and error run" also have a 3" diameter machine sander that might fill the bill

[rickgman]

Ira, I will e-mail you with the e-mail address of a fella who has done some of these conversions. Perhaps he can help. Good luck and tell us how it works out. Rick

[Col. Colt]

A full set of the scope mounting dimensions ONLY, taken off of REAL "Rifle, M1903A1 with Unertl Telescope 8X" would be of great value to the hobby - both in getting replicas for the CMP Games "right" and for detecting the poorly built frauds that are sometimes passed off as real to the unwary. (There seem to be enough hidden, not commonly known "tells" for USMC rifles among the knowledgable collectors that just getting the holes in the right place constitutes little danger of helping the fraudsters much.) I am gathering parts to build one of these rifles, and by using a good but drill rifle reciever no one will ever mistake it for the real thing.

Ideally we would get exact dimensions for the placing of the holes for the bases in the barrels and reciever ring with correct depths and thread sizes, locating off of hard points, and the exact location and size of the hole in the handguard. This might vary slightly, so checking a number of known originals might be best and noting any legitimate variances by a few thousanths.

[chuckindenver]

Clark Campbells book has some nice drawings ...check it out.

[jgaynor]

Chuck are you still offering your jig for locating the forward (barrel) scope block?
Jim

[pelago]

Clark Campbells book has some nice drawings ...check it out.

i am not familiar with him but i can take a book request to my library and they will get it, might take a month but they will find it

[PhillipM]

A full set of the scope mounting dimensions ONLY, taken off of REAL "Rifle, M1903A1 with Unertl Telescope 8X" would be of great value to the hobby - both in getting replicas for the CMP Games "right" and for detecting the poorly built frauds that are sometimes passed off as real to the unwary. (There seem to be enough hidden, not commonly known "tells" for USMC rifles among the knowledgable collectors that just getting the holes in the right place constitutes little danger of helping the fraudsters much.) I am gathering parts to build one of these rifles, and by using a good but drill rifle reciever no one will ever mistake it for the real thing.

Ideally we would get exact dimensions for the placing of the holes for the bases in the barrels and reciever ring with correct depths and thread sizes, locating off of hard points, and the exact location and size of the hole in the handguard. This might vary slightly, so checking a number of known originals might be best and noting any legitimate variances by a few thousanths.

I have been told by a highly regarded collector that even he can't 100% authenticate a 1941 sniper.

[Jim in Salt Lake]

Pelago, I used Senich's book that Jim Gaynor speaks of above. It has several good pictures that give a good look at how the handguard looks after the modification. I used a band saw and used double stick tape to attach the handguard to the side of a square piece of wood. I didn't worry too much about exact dimensions, just made it look like the picture. Some of these handguards were made in the field and I felt (have no evidence) there were no exact specs for this part. I've seen pictures of handguards that look pretty rough, particularly the cut out for the scope block.

[chuckindenver]

Chuck are you still offering your jig for locating the forward (barrel) scope block?
Jim

no. i have 2 left...i use one daily, and have the other as a back up...i just dont have the time to make more.

[pelago]

" made in the field"
If one thinks about it, in '42'43'44 who cared, as long as the final product killed japanese or german soldiers. "probably 'looks right' said more often than not"
got some sad for arm pieces to experiment with

[Jim in Salt Lake]

That's what I did, practiced on the cut down handguard that came with the "sporterized" rifle I used as the basis for my 1903A1.