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  • kex
    Junior Member
    • Oct 2013
    • 6

    #1

    1917 winchester /1908 warner swasey

    Hello , I am new to the site, but now from what the wife says I am obsessed . Any way the reason I am posting here today is 35 yrs ago I inherited a 1917 winchester , stamps are all W's . It is fitted with a 1908 warner swasey musket sight #201 stamped ( for rifel # 551××× ) unfortunately not matching serial numbers. My questions ... can and where to find serial # info ? Srs? Military issued sniper rifel ? Value ? ... Any info opinions would be greatly appreciated thank you for your time .
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  • kex
    Junior Member
    • Oct 2013
    • 6

    #2
    More photos
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    • Marine A5 Sniper Rifle
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 7450

      #3
      The 1908 W&S scopes were never mounted on M1917's. I have the SN data you are looking for. What is the complete SN of the matching rifle?

      jt

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      • Zarrinvz24
        Junior Member
        • Oct 2013
        • 1

        #4
        Looks nice!

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        • kex
          Junior Member
          • Oct 2013
          • 6

          #5
          Originally posted by Marine A5 Sniper
          The 1908 W&S scopes were never mounted on M1917's. I have the SN data you are looking for. What is the complete SN of the matching rifle?

          jt
          551009 serial # what I find interesting I read an older post, someone figured (may have been you ) that w/s were mounted on rifel with serial # all the way up to and ending in 551007 . Thank you for your time jt .
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          • Marine A5 Sniper Rifle
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 7450

            #6
            Originally posted by kex
            551009 serial # what I find interesting I read an older post, someone figured (may have been you ) that w/s were mounted on rifel with serial # all the way up to and ending in 551007 . Thank you for your time jt .
            Highest known 1903 SN with M1908 W&S scope is yours as of now. If anyone has one higher, please let me know. I think I would hang on to that scope.

            jt

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            • dave
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 6778

              #7
              Several scopes were fitted to 1917 as test beds, why not a W&S?
              You can never go home again.

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              • joem
                Senior Member, Deceased
                • Aug 2009
                • 11835

                #8
                Nice! Do you shoot it and how does it group?

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                • Marine A5 Sniper Rifle
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 7450

                  #9
                  Originally posted by dave
                  Several scopes were fitted to 1917 as test beds, why not a W&S?
                  It is a 1908 W&S scope, not a M1913. M1913's were mounted to about every rifle in the war, including the Ross. According to Pershing's communications, the M1913 did not fare well in combat, and he asked for a better platform early into the AEF participation phase. The war ended before a better alternative was selected.

                  jt

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                  • kex
                    Junior Member
                    • Oct 2013
                    • 6

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Marine A5 Sniper
                    Highest known 1903 SN with M1908 W&S scope is yours as of now. If anyone has one higher, please let me know. I think I would hang on to that scope.

                    jt
                    well thats exciting , definitely plan on hanging on to the scope . Is the serial number Info something that you have accumulated ? And if it wasn't matched to my 1917 is there some way to find out info on a matching serial number rifel ? Thanks again jt , sorry about all the questions I'm just interested in learning more .

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                    • kex
                      Junior Member
                      • Oct 2013
                      • 6

                      #11
                      Its been years since I shot it , I hunted with it for many years but not for the past ten . I have never shot it with the scope I was afraid of ruining it .

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                      • Marine A5 Sniper Rifle
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 7450

                        #12
                        Originally posted by kex
                        well thats exciting , definitely plan on hanging on to the scope . Is the serial number Info something that you have accumulated ? And if it wasn't matched to my 1917 is there some way to find out info on a matching serial number rifel ? Thanks again jt , sorry about all the questions I'm just interested in learning more .
                        I have database of scoped 1903's from M1908's to Unertls. If that rifle shows up anywhere, I will post it on CSP. I am personally looking for 1903 SN 353045 to match my own M1908. A matched set is way better than an unmatched set in satisfaction and value.

                        jt

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                        • Promo
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2011
                          • 335

                          #13
                          There was a W&S scoped WWII sniper of the P.14 Enfield which used the Canadian W&S M1913 type scope, but have never seen a M1917 with that scope. However, it's interesting since basically the M1917 has identical rear sight protection ears and I have always been wondering whether they modified the P.14 rifle to be able to mount the Canadian W&S scope.





                          Compare those pictures to your rifle. Note that the rail on this rifle is different from your rail, which appears to be a M1903 rifle rail. However, can you post an additional picture of your rail showing it from the left side, without the scope being mounted?

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                          • kex
                            Junior Member
                            • Oct 2013
                            • 6

                            #14
                            Here are some pics of the left side, no scope . You can see that the ear has been milled off .
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