Hatcock and the 50 cal at the arizona??

[pelago]

Palago, like a lot of the stuff on the internet your(very old) vid was pooh-poohed long ago. People don't blow up like that(if that's what your alluding to). It might be Aphgan(or anywhere)but those are rock chucks(or something).

next time i will be sure to ask if it is okay with you to post something

[dryheat]

You should, I know almost everything! LOL

The vid you posted is just an aside to the real interesting fact that Carlos rigged up a .50 as a sniper rifle. I read the biograghy a long time ago.

-I'm surprised we haven't covered this before. The video clips have been around for a few years. They appear to have been taken from this site:
Varmint Safari- (from a thread about the vid that was posted in' 07).

The equiptment and training that goes into long range shooting today is amazing. I kind of feel the same way about some of this stuff as I do about prospectors who found motherloads with just a pickaxe and a mule. It's always some really tough/smart,dogged guy who does it first.

[dryheat]

It also appears to be sighted for 100 yards.

Interesting observation. The two pictures show the scope pointing in very different directions.

[Badgerord]

The pic in post 9 indicates they are shooting a long way!
Interesting thing, the scope rings are only about 2" apart (I'm guessing) but they are clearly too close for the adjusting ring to work correctly.
I would think the recoil would wreck the scope with all that scope hanging out.

Marty
Badger Ordnance

[dryheat]

Howdy.

[RickM]

no doubt though that gun in post 9 is being used when the picture was taken there is a casing in the air under it and a link in the air to the right pretty cool pictures if you ask me

[fjruple]

this is supposed to be the actual 50 cal that he made up, now i can not say for true it is, but it is reported to be

The .50 base mount looks like a base mount for a AN/TVS-2 night vision scope. The AN/TVS-2 base mount was probably left on the .50 during the day time when the Unertl scope was used. The Unertl scope looks like a commercial one that was readily available through the base exchange system. Hathcock having been a member of the Marine shooting team probably had access to his buds back in Quantico to make up the Unertl base. I imagine after night fall the Unertl was removed and Hathcock used the AN/TVS-2 night vision scope for night time sniping with the .50. I cannot think of anything more deadly at night.

--fjruple

[Marine A5 Sniper Rifle]

The .50 base mount looks like a base mount for a AN/TVS-2 night vision scope. The AN/TVS-2 base mount was probably left on the .50 during the day time when the Unertl scope was used. The Unertl scope looks like a commercial one that was readily available through the base exchange system. Hathcock having been a member of the Marine shooting team probably had access to his buds back in Quantico to make up the Unertl base. I imagine after night fall the Unertl was removed and Hathcock used the AN/TVS-2 night vision scope for night time sniping with the .50. I cannot think of anything more deadly at night.--fjruple

The background doesn't look like any part of Hill 55 I ever saw.

jt

[Weasel]

The picture shown is a later model Unertl as it has recoil spring and shiny mounts instead of blacken. I don't think you would find shiny mounts in a combat zone on any rifle.

[RickM]

Those arent shiney. They are on my unertl they are a flat matte grey/silver

[Dolt]

Rock Chuck shooting

A fifty cal round will absolutely tear your ass apart. Saw a dink running across a rice paddy hit with a fifty cal and he did a flip in the air when hit, with what looked to be his internal organs flying all over the place including one of his rib cages. We recovered his carcass and he was thoroughly disemboweled to a high degree. Had a fellow Marine accidentally hit with a fifty cal ricochet (I did not see him the moment he was hit), and the damage to his body was just freaking incredible.

I had a 50 cal Barrett for several years, and my personal observation was that the damage from one of the rounds (talking about deer now) was way more pronounced at longer ranges than at point blank range. I was using Argentine surplus military ammo ($7 a pop at the time).

Who poo-pooed the video? I, for one, have no doubt they are authenticate.

Do they have 200 lb rock chucks in Afghanistan?

jt

That video has been extensively "debunked". Those are rock chucks or varmints of some other kind.

[Marine A5 Sniper Rifle]

That video has been extensively "debunked". Those are rock chucks or varmints of some other kind.

Who "debunked" them? What varmint that size exist in those mountains?

jt

[Dolt]

I would like to know how the size and weight of the target can be determined from the video with no point of reference. You're right, I cannot name the people that debunked this video, but I put a lot of faith in the folks on this website. Their knowlege and experience regarding this type of shooting is pretty much unimpeachable. If the folks on the Culver's Shooting Page site say the video really does portray the shooting of human bad guys I will change my position. On the other hand, if most of them think it is not some Taliban a..holes getting blown away you should consider changing your position. The thought of the video being real is very satisfying, but that is not enough to prove it is real.

[pelago]

been some comment and or questioln as to (not a quote but close) has anyone seen what a fifty cal does to the human body,
yes i have
it not only puts the insides on the outside but blows it into chunks and blows it in the air
a torso shot usually leaves thighs, knees and feet not much else
i have never seen anyone walk away from a fifty cal hit
No i did not shoot them myself, but we had them at 881 and we used them, and they do reach out and touch

[Shooter5]

Some of you may like to know the M2 now has modern scope mounts; the most common in the form of a bracket that fits over rear sight. Also, the butterfly trigger assembly has been updated with a safety switch.

http://www.modarmory.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=49

http://www.fnhusa.com/l/products/machine-guns/m2hb-qcb/