CMP to auction an M40......

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  • Bsully
    Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 32

    #16
    As per the DOD central registry, the rifle is/was USAF (United States Air Force) property. Scarce none the less but not USMC. Interesting to note as with most 6xxxxxx rifles, the scope is matte black and the scope base has rounded corners.
    Last edited by Bsully; 10-26-2010, 06:52.

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    • Badgerord
      Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 97

      #17
      Ba-da-bingo Sully,

      I wish the CMP would have done some research instead of just throwing out the "USMC Sniper" but it will bring more $$$$$ with the wrong description.

      Marty
      Badger Ordnance

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      • BigMo
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 338

        #18
        Bsully:
        How are you gaining access to the DOD central registry? In other words I'm curious, how you got on and how to check a firearm there? How is it set up? Any firearm they have a serial number for or what?
        Thanks!

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        • Dan in NY
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 516

          #19
          Bid up to $8355 as of Weds. AM....wow....

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          • Bsully
            Member
            • Oct 2009
            • 32

            #20
            Mo,
            There are certain privileges granted certain citizens due to certain circumstances. I know that is a bit vague but it is as best an answer as I can supply. My specific study area was initially USMC Remingtons and Winchesters. Come to find out there is a much broader and interesting history throughout all branches of service concerning "commercially" procured civilian weapons for special services and other uses and as such my area of study expanded. A side note; The initial USAF M40's were turned in by the AF in the early 80's as there was no real use for them any more. The Army found out that they were being turned in and obtained a few and they were utilized by the AMU to build the first test beds for the M24 program, really an off shoot of the USMC M40A1 program. They were short actions with heavy barrels in McMillan stocks to include a few built up in McHale stocks, the "space guns."
            Marty, I fully agree on the "USMC" description. Would hope it is just lack of research. Did you see the M40 in the last Rock Island Auction? It was an AF rifle as well and the M40A1 although a listed rifle had nothing to do with reality. Take a look at the US marking and the discoloration around the serial number. The font on the mount was the exact same font on the receiver and the US was way too large.

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            • dobek
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 929

              #21
              value

              Ok - No guess as to what the CMP auction will go for - waaaayyy toooo high I suspect - - - but what would a "fair" value be on such a nice rifle?

              Steve

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              • 1shot
                Member
                • Oct 2009
                • 64

                #22
                Originally posted by dobek
                Ok - No guess as to what the CMP auction will go for - waaaayyy toooo high I suspect - - - but what would a "fair" value be on such a nice rifle?

                Steve
                Given that; there were approximately 995 M-40's made, and, that the experts say there was a 50% loss rate in country, and, that the majority of the balance were used in the rebuild program - M40A1 (and many of these have been coded out be cause they became out of spec), How many original M-40's are in existance? So what is a fair value on a rare rifle like this? $12K to $14K.? Point of reference - I just saw a mint Redfield Green scope sell for $7K.
                Last edited by 1shot; 10-27-2010, 05:56.

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                • Badgerord
                  Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 97

                  #23
                  $7K! Man O Man... I need to divest! I have a Greenie with a special test reticle that is a thin cross hair with a dot in the center, its legit, I have the DRMO papers from the 70s.

                  Sully, the A1 was a fake, Sometime we should have a phone conversation and discuss a few of these kinds of things.

                  Marty
                  Badger Ordnance

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                  • 1shot
                    Member
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 64

                    #24
                    The scope was stone mint. It didn't have a rifle number on it. I am surprised, given the current economy, that people are still willing to pay high $$ for collectables. Sometimes outrageous prices!!

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                    • xarmor
                      Member
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 31

                      #25
                      I have one of those un-numbered greenies, I would let it go for $7K!!!

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                      • Dan in NY
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 516

                        #26
                        As of Thursday afternoon, its over $10,000 already......Yikes....

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                        • EnfieldGuy
                          Junior Member
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 13

                          #27
                          The auction will go crazy as most CMP auctions go. Everyone is stating the matching number scope, if you refer to the electropencil as the matching parts, then I guess it is matching. Is there any way to know that this rifle is original and was not assembled last week, month or year by an armorer???

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                          • Dan Shapiro
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 5864

                            #28
                            Someone wants this rifle BAD!

                            "No man's life, liberty, or property is safe, while Congress is in session." Mark Twain

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                            • Badgerord
                              Member
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 97

                              #29
                              Enfield,

                              The SN indicated it was made in 1969, for the Air force. The fact the the CMP has it gives a pretty good indication its real.

                              Marty
                              Badger Ordnance

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                              • da gimp
                                Very Senior Member - OFC Deceased
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 10137

                                #30
                                I'm guessing that the cost for the rifle will reach somewhere N of $15K, it appears that @ least 2 persons with deep pockets want it......

                                da gimp
                                be safe, enjoy life, journey well
                                da gimp
                                OFC, Mo. Chapter

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