US Army to field new Compact Sniper Rifle (CSASS)

[Shooter5]

http://www.janes.com/article/59331/heckler-koch-to-build-new-us-army-sniper-rifle

[bruce]

About what one would expect, i.e., a typical waste of money. JMHO. Sincerely. bruce.

[barretcreek]

That's almost 15 grand apiece. Wonder how much is the bonus to the retired O-6 who is H&K's adviser?

[SMOKEY]

Still an AR and no danged coffee pot. Sheesh

[Vern Humphrey]

Still an AR and no danged coffee pot. Sheesh

We're going backwards -- the old Sharps carbine of Civil War fame had a coffee grinder in the buttstock of every 10th weapon.

https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.Maa33c7a64a6966e6d8c45a0500c1b85cH0&w=139&h=105&c=7&rs=1&qlt=90&pid=3.1&rm=2

[Col. Colt]

A foreign sourced Stoner AR derivative in 7.62mm? Why?? A SAGE stocked M14 EBR will outshoot it.

So it can cost three times as much as a US made version, apparently. H&K is the most overpriced Hype in the firearms industry - certainly good, but not overwhelmingly so - and certainly not enough to justify their platinum prices. So let's just ship every possible US armament job overseas, too? Who's getting the kickback on this? CC

[Vern Humphrey]

This is directly contrary to the American Tradition in weapons design. We design the finest weapons in the world (like the Rifle Musket and the M1 Garand.) And if we can't design something better than a foreign weapon, we steal it (like we stole the '98 Mauser to create the '03 Springfield.)

[Shooter5]

A foreign sourced Stoner AR derivative in 7.62mm? Why?? A SAGE stocked M14 EBR will outshoot it.

So it can cost three times as much as a US made version, apparently. H&K is the most overpriced Hype in the firearms industry - certainly good, but not overwhelmingly so - and certainly not enough to justify their platinum prices. So let's just ship every possible US armament job overseas, too? Who's getting the kickback on this? CC

HK has several US locations; its likely these are built in Georgia as per standard requirements similar to FNH USA in South Carolina.

http://hk-usa.com/

[Col. Colt]

Unless HK has some magical Teutonic Stoner dust they sprinkle on each rifle, it's still just an AR-10 with a more expensive nameplate attached. We can build them cheaper at Knight or Armalite, for heaven's sake! CC

[Vern Humphrey]

Unless HK has some magical Teutonic Stoner dust they sprinkle on each rifle, it's still just an AR-10 with a more expensive nameplate attached. We can build them cheaper at Knight or Armalite, for heaven's sake! CC

I don't think so. First of all, we don't KNOW what the cost is, so we can't make statements like that.

Second, if Knight or Armalite could make them at a lower cost, they'd have got the contract. And if they didn't, they could sue. And no one has filed a lawsuit.

[TomSudz]

Anybody know if it's got a piston like the HK-416?

[Shooter5]

http://www.heckler-koch.com/en/products/military/precision-rifles/g28/g28/overview.html

Technical details might be in here.

[jgaynor]

That's almost 15 grand apiece. Wonder how much is the bonus to the retired O-6 who is H&K's adviser?

Are you including the spare mag and the cleaning kit?

[mtrpdw]

A couple of years back, I had the opportunity of shooting the G28 on HK's range in Germany. I accomplished a 10-round, 2.6" group at 200 meters, which I found impressive for a semi-auto rifle.

While the G28 is basically an AR-10/SR-25, with some extra, unnecessary parts, it's advantage is "barrel, barrel, barrel". G28's have cold, hammer forged barrels - something Armalite and KAC do not offer.

Cold hammer forged barrels have longevity over hot hammer forged barrels (i.e., KAC R5 cut rifling), and are extremely strong for sustained (i.e., USMC M27/HK416 IAR) and rapid (i.e., G28 DMR) fire.

Adopting the G28 will also have to open up a new logistics/supply chain, as many parts are not compatible with current M110 designs.

I believe the sooner USA manufacturers invest in cold hammer forged barrel technology/machinery, potential future contracts ($$) will stay in-country.