ceska zbrojovka-narodni podnik strakonice conversion to 9mm

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  • Ken The Kanuck
    Very Senior Member - OFC
    • Aug 2009
    • 4094

    #1

    ceska zbrojovka-narodni podnik strakonice conversion to 9mm

    Did they make a ceska zbrojovka-narodni podnik strakonice conversion for a 7.65 to 9 mm? Maybe a barrel change out?

    Thanks

    KTK
  • free1954
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2010
    • 1165

    #2
    for the cz-27?

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    • Ken The Kanuck
      Very Senior Member - OFC
      • Aug 2009
      • 4094

      #3
      A buddy brought it over last night, he had just bought it. It was a CZ but I couldn't see a 27 or anything on it besides 7.62 and a small 49 just under the barrel. He figured it shot 9mm and when we took it a apart and put a 9 mm in the chamber it fit well, a little wiggle. I do not know much about these guns, Soviet occupation/Warsaw Pack, etc. and was hoping someone could tell me if it was common to re-barrel these. Another interesting thing was the end of the barrel was threaded as if to accept a silencer?

      Thanks for your help

      KTK

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      • gwp
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 1088

        #4
        The Vz22 and Vz24 were manufactured in .380 (9×17 Browning Short).



        It must be noted that both Vz.22 and Vz.24 pistols were too complicated and somehow insufficiently reliable, due to the fact that rotary barrel locking system, which was originally devised to fire 9×19 Luger ammunition, was not really necessary to fire noticeably less powerful 9×17 Browning Short ammunition, which at the time was standard for Czechoslovak army.

        In 9mm

        EXTRAORDINARY NICKL DESIGN MAUSER M1916/22 PROTOTYPE PISTOL, 9MM NICKL. Cal. 9mm Nickl (a reduced rim 9 mm Kurz case). Experimental Mauser pistol designed by Josef Nickl with rotating bbl system (Steyr pattern) later utilized in the CZ vz. 22 et seq. pistols. This full size example, with the external appearance of the CZ 22, has a 4" bbl with a fixed front sight and drift adjustable rear sight. The slide is devoid of any markings except the SN "29" on the rib. Detachable side plate is marked with the Mauser banner followed by the 2-line address “Waffenfabrik Mauser A.G. / Oberndorf a.N.”. SN is repeated on bbl bushing, back of the frame, on appropriate internal parts and on back of the orig magazine. Major and most minor parts including trigger & magazine floorplate are rust blued. Hammer is strawed. Pistol is fitted with a single piece checkered grip.


        https://www.forgottenweapons.com/nic...james-d-julia/

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        • Ken The Kanuck
          Very Senior Member - OFC
          • Aug 2009
          • 4094

          #5
          Thanks very much for the information.

          I will send your post and links to my buddy.

          The mystery thickens.

          KTK

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          • dave
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 6778

            #6
            Collectors generally refer to rifles as VZ and pistols as CZ. VZ is simply the abbreviation for Model and I think the CZ refers to the maker. It keeps the confusion down, as there is a VZ24 rifle and perhaps other similarity's.
            Last edited by dave; 12-21-2017, 11:28.
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            • blackhawknj
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2011
              • 3754

              #7
              IIRC iin semiautomatic pistols you can only change calibers when the diameter of the cartridge head is identical-or you have an Astra 600. The critical factor is the position of the ejector. You can fire 9MM out of a 38 Super Colt by changing barrels and magazines.
              A 9MM fitting with a little "wiggle" ? Sounds like a CZ 52 chambered in 7.62 Tokarev.
              Last edited by blackhawknj; 03-11-2018, 04:39.

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