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  • mike24d20
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 1065

    #1

    45/70 mossie

    Is it possible too turn a 91/30 mossie from 7.62x54 into a 45/70? I am thinking that since the rims of the rounds are about the same, it might be possible. An if it is possible, who could do the work?
    AIM TRUE, YOU MIGHT HIT THE TARGET:
  • Art
    Senior Member, Deceased
    • Dec 2009
    • 9256

    #2
    A couple of decades ago I remember a conversion to .45-70 of Siamese Mausers. I never actually put my hands on one but I understand they worked ok. Of course that was a commercial undertaking where a lot of rifles were converted.

    It sounds like a really expensive proposition. You'd have to find a place to have a barrel made that would be threaded to fit a Mosin-Nagant receiver, that alone sounds real expensive. The first thing to do, it seems to me, would be to see if a .45-70 cartridge will fit in the magazine and feed.
    Last edited by Art; 04-22-2013, 07:14.

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    • John Sukey
      Very Senior Member - OFC Deceased
      • Aug 2009
      • 12224

      #3
      Or you could just buy a 45-70 Marlin lever action

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      • mike24d20
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2009
        • 1065

        #4
        Had one, did not like it so off it went. if was going too go lever action again I would get a 1886 browning. Just like the idea of having a bolt action on a old time reciver. An ER Shaw does make bbls in 45/70 an hopefully they can thread the bbl also.
        AIM TRUE, YOU MIGHT HIT THE TARGET:

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        • Guamsst
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 9753

          #5
          Just bore the stock barrel out to .45" What's the worst that could happen.....LOL

          If you are putting a new barrel on it then I really don't see a problem different from any other rifle. Can a barrel be found to fit it? can the action handle it? If yes and yes then it is a matter of money.
          I own firearms not to fight against my government, but to ensure I will not have to.

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          • dogtag
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2009
            • 14985

            #6
            Some years ago I bought a 1871 action with a French 6.5 barrel [Daudetau]
            Put a 45/70 barrel on it. Love it.
            {I already had and still have an excellent 71]

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            • mike24d20
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2009
              • 1065

              #7
              Got onto the er shaw web site. Bbls are cheap enough, but the add on's are a killer--true bolt face-lap lugs-flut bbl-blue bbl. Man that stuff adds up quick. Tried calling them, left message but no return call since I posted first idea. But I will keep trying as I want a 45/70 bolt gun based on the 91/30 action.
              AIM TRUE, YOU MIGHT HIT THE TARGET:

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              • BlitzKrieg
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2009
                • 573

                #8
                The Mosin is a nightmare to rebarrel. Just go back to the a Marlin or get a Siamese Mauser action and go from there.
                Forget the Mosin.

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                • mike24d20
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 1065

                  #9
                  Blitz: What makes it a b-auch too rebarrel? Could it be the size of the bbl. next to the reciver or what? mike
                  AIM TRUE, YOU MIGHT HIT THE TARGET:

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                  • S.B.
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 241

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Art
                    A couple of decades ago I remember a conversion to .45-70 of Siamese Mausers. I never actually put my hands on one but I understand they worked ok. Of course that was a commercial undertaking where a lot of rifles were converted.

                    It sounds like a really expensive proposition. You'd have to find a place to have a barrel made that would be threaded to fit a Mosin-Nagant receiver, that alone sounds real expensive. The first thing to do, it seems to me, would be to see if a .45-70 cartridge will fit in the magazine and feed.
                    My son owns one and I think it's originally chambered for .45/70? It shoots great.
                    Steve
                    The Original Point and Click Interface was a Smith & Wesson

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                    • k arga
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 565

                      #11
                      S B can we get a little more info on the rifle.
                      thanks
                      kurt

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                      • S.B.
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 241

                        #12
                        Originally posted by k arga
                        S B can we get a little more info on the rifle.
                        thanks
                        kurt
                        When I see my son next. Probably this weekend, his daughter has a 4-H range session. I've seen it but, never went with to shoot it.
                        Steve
                        The Original Point and Click Interface was a Smith & Wesson

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                        • Dick Hosmer
                          Very Senior Member - OFC
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 5993

                          #13
                          AFAIK, neither the Mauser (Siamese or otherwise) or the Moisin-Nagant was EVER "originally chambered" in .45-70.

                          If you want a .45-70 bolt gun, get a Remington-Lee. No conversion needed. Also, a detachable magazine.

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                          • dave
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 6778

                            #14
                            Not original 45-70. The Siamese cart was rimmed so bolt and magazine needed nothing (or almost nothing) done to them. They were popular as original ammo is and was hard to find and expensive. Now the rifles are worth big bucks, would be a shame to alter one, but actions or otherwise molested examples could be found. They were converted by importers, so they could sell them!
                            Last edited by dave; 07-10-2015, 12:20.
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                            • PhillipM
                              Very Senior Member - OFC
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 5937

                              #15
                              Looks to have been done.

                              Phillip McGregor (OFC)
                              "I am neither a fire arms nor a ballistics expert, but I was a combat infantry officer in the Great War, and I absolutely know that the bullet from an infantry rifle has to be able to shoot through things." General Douglas MacArthur

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