1893 French Chatterault Nagant thats been everywhere

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  • randy langford
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 450

    #1

    1893 French Chatterault Nagant thats been everywhere

    Saw this one on a local guns for sale board for $150 sent my wife to buy it for me as I had to work. The Barrel and receiver are French with both a boxed SA on barrel and AZF on the receiver. The stock is Finnish the bolt is all Remington. the bore is very good and the trigger is the best I have ever felt on a Nagant and rivals the best of my German or American rifles.It has no import marks. hard to believe this thing survived in this shape so long.
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  • Marcus
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2010
    • 163

    #2
    Nice rifle. One thing, though. It's a Mosin, not a Nagant. When you say "Nagant" you are talking about clunky old revolver.

    The WW1 capture AZF marking is cool, and at $150 you did very well as this is an $800 + rifle.

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    • Art
      Senior Member, Deceased
      • Dec 2009
      • 9256

      #3
      Very, very nice old rifle. As Marcus says, you got one heck of a deal!

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      • Art
        Senior Member, Deceased
        • Dec 2009
        • 9256

        #4
        Originally posted by Marcus
        Nice rifle. One thing, though. It's a Mosin, not a Nagant.
        Since we're real technical here it isn't a "Mosin" either. It's the "Three Line Rifle Model of 1891." It's referred to as the "Mosin" or "Mosin-Nagant" just like the "U.S. Rifle Cal. .30 M1" is referred to as the "Garand." Nagant submitted a competing design for the trial in which the Model 1891 rifle was adopted. Some of his features, relating to the magazine, were adapted into the basic Mosin designed rifle for which the Tsarist government paid him a royalty after a dispute in which he threatened legal action. Therefore the Mosin-Nagant moniker. You are correct that the basic design of the rifle was Sergei Mosin's though, and the Russians never used Nagant's name in connection with the rifle.
        Last edited by Art; 08-17-2013, 03:08.

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        • wsfbernie
          Senior Member
          • May 2010
          • 192

          #5
          Mosin Rifle

          I enjoy these old M1891 types. They represent a pivotal period in European history, and ours too for that matter. Interesting how the Russians stayed with a rimmed cartridge when the rest of the world went rimless. Social turbulence? I have found the real challenge now is to
          find ammo manufactured during that era. Also, Romanov oilers seem to be scarce. Enjoy,
          that rifle is not only attractive, but it is a piece of history. You can tell the Finns had it by the
          accurately placed recoil bolt. The Russians didn't do as nice a job.

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          • randy langford
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2009
            • 450

            #6
            Thanks for all the comments I plan on some range time soon. I will give a report as soon as I do it will surprise me if it doesn't shoot as good as it looks.

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            • coppertales
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2010
              • 414

              #7
              Nice rifle. Here is a pic of my 93 Chat... http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...s/109_0902.jpg chris3

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              • RCS
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 2180

                #8
                early Russian cartridges

                These early round nose 7,62x54R cartridges are difficult to find, the spritzer bullet was introduced in 1908 but took years to replace the sights on the weapons

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                • randy langford
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 450

                  #9
                  Got to the range

                  Got to the range today shot a total of 20 rounds. The first 15 with sight set at lowest setting last 5 I moved the sight up one notch. The distance was one 100 yards off a rest with a 6 o'clock hold the red center measures 4 1/2 inch. If it wasn't for the two flyers the first group would have been 4 1/2 inch as is it measures 8 1/2 inches last 5 shots measure 3 3/4. I am one happy person today.
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