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  • budster
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2012
    • 118

    #16
    Thanks for the info, Raymeketa.

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    • John Kepler
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 3028

      #17
      Originally posted by M2Phil
      Not wishing to argue on and on, but the Chinese Berdan primed "LC-52" is not all corrosive. I know that from personal experience with it. Others have found that theirs was corrosive. I will not say they're full of it just because their findings differed from mine. Who knows how many zillions of rounds of fake "LC-52" they cranked out, whenever they did it, and for whatever reason.
      This statement is in the same logical universe as saying that you ate some arsenic and didn't die.....so arsenic isn't a poison and you should sprinkle it on your corn flakes in the morning for extra flavor!

      ALL Chinese military ammo is corrosively primed.....just ask'um if you won't take anyone elses word for it! It's all they make! And just because you had a firearm that didn't turn into a ball of rust immediately doesn't mean the primers are safe! The "little molecules" in question are potassium chloride.....ordinary table salt's more benign cousin.....not some "magic acid" like the stuff in the "Alien" movie! Plain old everyday salt.....and not much of it! How much ends up "residing" in your firearm after you shoot it is kind of the central issue....and is also difficult to predict. The United States fought two rather "biggish" wars and a dozen or so smaller conflicts with corrosive primers (the US military didn't start using non-corrosive primers in any large way until the mid-1950's)......a LOT of it in places that have MUCH harsher conditions than we're having in Ohio this week....and the rifles didn't dissolve! So yes.....you can shoot corrosively primed ammo and convince yourself it isn't because your firearm didn't immediately turn to a ball of rust. But that is simply an exercise of what we used to call in the lab, "Drawing a 5 dollar conclusion from a nickels-worth of data!"....it's actually a form of self-delusion!

      First: I don't willing fire ANY ammo that doesn't come off my own loading bench.....me I trust, you I don't! Second: If I happen to shoot ANY mil-surp ammo....I ALWAYS assume it's corrosive and clean accordingly ("No matter how dumb the dealer looks....always cut the cards!").....I don't like "unpleasant" surprises! So Chum.....you go right ahead, assume some of that Chinese ammo is non-corrosive....tell your friends the same thing if you have a mind, some are bound to listen and believe. I don't care, it's your money, your firearm, your choice. Treat your ignorance like it's a virtue. But pardon me if I think you a fool in this case and anyone that listen's to you an even bigger one, and continue to treat ANY mil-surp like it's gonna eat my historic firearms alive and clean accordingly!
      Last edited by John Kepler; 06-27-2013, 08:11.

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      • M2Phil
        Member
        • Aug 2012
        • 95

        #18
        Gee wiz, John,
        I'll shore try not tuh sprinkle no arsenick down in my korn flakkes.
        But brother, you might want to stop drinking the pee out of yours.

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        • John Kepler
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 3028

          #19
          Originally posted by M2Phil
          Gee wiz, John,
          I'll shore try not tuh sprinkle no arsenick down in my korn flakkes.
          But brother, you might want to stop drinking the pee out of yours.
          I rest my case!

          "Never argue with an idiot! They drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience!" B. Slipiec

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          • Hefights
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2009
            • 596

            #20
            "If I happen to shoot ANY mil-surp ammo....I ALWAYS assume it's corrosive and clean accordingly."

            A bit of an extreme statement isn't it John? I and others shoot lots of Greek HXP M2 Ball, and its not corrosive. It is pretty dirty. But granted that how you clean your guns is not my concern.

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            • John Kepler
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 3028

              #21
              Why take the chance? The cure is about 30 seconds with a wet patch soaked in Windex......not onerous, not a major chore, miniscule investment......the peace-of-mind: Priceless! It's one of the most lopsided "No-Brainer" cost-benefit equations I've ever dealt with! YMMV!
              Last edited by John Kepler; 06-29-2013, 05:27.

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              • raymeketa
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 884

                #22
                If you do a lot of Carbine shooting, and if you are handy with tools and do most of your own minor gunsmithing jobs - buy one or two extra piston nuts, crack the original, take it off, clean the piston and gas cylinder, put on a new nut, and then maintain the assembly on a regular basis. The piston and nut were designed so the average GI could not mess with it in the field or barracks, but you should be smarter than the soda-jerk turned infantryman and not feel so restricted.

                JMHO

                Ray
                Last edited by raymeketa; 06-29-2013, 10:01.

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                • Hefights
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 596

                  #23
                  Originally posted by raymeketa
                  you should be smarter than the soda-jerk turned infantryman and not feel so restricted
                  LOL

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                  • joem
                    Senior Member, Deceased
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 11835

                    #24
                    Just buy a Hornady Cam Loc bullet puller. Pull the bullets, save the powder and load into your cases.

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