Bad reloading decision

[fguffey]

The first time I read the story about the 30/06 chamber, I suggested it would be impossible for someone to run a 30/06 reamer into a 65mm50 chamber. Then the story was modified, they changed the part about using a 30/06 reamer, they claimed he drilled the .264 barrel with a 308????? drill.

And then? I said that would not work because the rifle would be without a forcing cone, meaning the bullet would be sized from 308 to 6.5MM/.264. Then they changed that story.

I did say I have a 6.5mm50/257 Roberts reamer, I think nothing of chambering the 6.5mm50 to 6.5mm/257 Roberts,

Then I suggested reaming the chamber to 6.5mm06. I have heard the story about the man that chambered the Japanese rifle to 30/06 three times in the last two months. . I suggested the story start with "Once upon a time etc.".

F. Guffey

[Parashooter]

[Matt Anthony]

Thanks Parashooter! I also read of a Type 99 rifle that was deliberately overloaded with pistol powder, tied to a truck tire and remotely fired using a long string. They shot it many times and could not blow the action up. They did have to hammer the bolt open, but there was no damage.
Matt

[Matt Anthony]

By not following your own advice to ignore him you've managed to set him off again! Listen, it's clear FG has some cognitive issues - but he also has considerable experience and sometimes hides useful information among the tangles of his imagination. If you can get past the masses of chaff, there's occasionally a grain of wisdom in there.

I apologize for bringing it up and will not mention it again.
Matt

[Johnny P]

I sure wish you could find that article and post it here as Mr. FG doesn't believe it happened, he called it a rumor. I remember FG years ago on this forum, he left for years. Better to just ignore him, than try and make sense with his rants.
Matt

I reserve a special place for those that have the only opinion that counts. They exist only to prove everyone else on the forum incapable of having a sane thought.

Here is the photo from the May 1959 AR article, page 52 and 53. Optical illusion I suppose on the .308 bullets appearing longer after being fired through the 6.5 bore. I guess the owner of the rifle also lied about it kicking.

[Matt Anthony]

I reserve a special place for those that have the only opinion that counts. They exist only to prove everyone else on the forum incapable of having a sane thought.

Here is the photo from the May 1959 AR article, page 52 and 53. Optical illusion I suppose on the .308 bullets appearing longer after being fired through the 6.5 bore. I guess the owner of the rifle also lied about it kicking.

Thanks for posting the pics. Talk about strong, that action is the definition of "Bullet Proof"! PO Ackley after WWII was the one that tested numerous military actions for strength. I don't know where the information on his testing can be found. Maybe someone out there knows?
Matt

[madsenshooter]

The dimensions the OP gave for the cases might indicate this rifle has been rechambered to something else. OK as long as loads have little pressure, but get enough pressure to fully blow the case out.....

[Dolt]

Thanks for posting the pics. Talk about strong, that action is the definition of "Bullet Proof"! PO Ackley after WWII was the one that tested numerous military actions for strength. I don't know where the information on his testing can be found. Maybe someone out there knows?
Matt

I've got a copy of the book he authored regarding the testing of military actions. It is quite interesting and I would put it on this site if someone can advise me how to do it.

[joem]

A while back I talked to a fellow that said he used to reload but quit. I asked him the reason and he told this story: He had a rifle chambered for .30-06. It shot low so he kept adding powder because he thought the bullet was dropping. Soon he couldn't open the bolt so he sent it to the manufacture for repair. Got it back and fired a few more over pressure rounds, locked up again. Sent it to manufacture for repair. Fired one more and locked it up again. This time the manufacture told him not to send it in again or they would scrap the rifle. Thank goodness he doesn't reload anymore and he still has all his parts.

[RED]

Once upon a time I fired a 8X57 round in a 1903A3 and the only damage to the rifle was a ring in the bore about 1/2 way down the barrel. The 8MM bullet is .013" larger than the .308. The fact the case is shorter is likely the reason there was not a catastrophic failure. Afterwards, I quit using cut down and resized '06 brass to form 8X57 cases. Point being the .268 Caracano bullet is only .004 larger than the 6.5MM.

[Former Cav]

I have a friend who was loading a 6mm remington 700 rifle up to the MAX (and beyond as far as I was concerned).
this was his praire dog rifle.
He had to use a rubber mallet to open the bolt each time he fired!!!
One time, he hit the bolt handle and it came OFF of the bolt (it was silver soldered on apparently).
So, he took the rifle to a custom gunsmith he uses, and the bolt and action in that rifle were destroyed. The metal had turned extremely granular (looked like a bunch of small bee bees).
Only salvageable part was the stock.
I was shooting a 243 with a 75 grain bullet (because that was all that was available at the time.........NOT my first choice....but it worked quite well even with the crappy ballistic coef)
It came out at 3030 FPS. He mocked me and said I needed to crank it up to 3600 or so. I laughed and said, I don't want to work the rifle, or my shoulder hard and besides, the prairie doesn't notice if he died a millisecond sooner or later anyhow.

[buttebob]

I remember reading the American Rifleman article about firing the rechambered 6.5 Arisaka. I also read about P.O. Ackley's testing of the Type 99 and if I remember correctly he said the pressure was 100,000 psi.
I worked at a gun shop for several years and I had a couple of boys come in once and buy a box of 30-30 to shoot on the range. They came back into the shop to ask what caliber the Marlin 336 was that they were shooting. They also had the 30-30 fired cases with them that they had just purchased. The cases were now straight without a bottle neck and were a little fatter. The Marlin was a 35 Remington. One of the guys laughed and told his buddy, "I told you something wasn't right with all that smoke coming out of that gun." I guess the extractor had just enough grip on the rim to allow the cartridge to fire.