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  • Allen
    Moderator
    • Sep 2009
    • 10628

    #1

    Polishing media for tumbling brass

    Besides using walnut or corncob media while tumbling brass what other "stuff" have you used with good results? I have read that rice works well too but haven't tried it yet. This subject came up on the old forum and there was a lot of talk about adding Nufinish car wax to the media since it contains no ammonia. I have used this with good results but looking for something that works quicker. The walnut and corncob plugs the primer pockets so I tried using 100% baking soda since it works good for polishing----a big "no-no". It turns the brass black. I use both a horizonal tumbler and a vibrating type tumbler. My problem is (besides the primer pocket getting plugged) that on tarnished brass I need something more abrasive since tumbling overnight does not always clean the brass enough.
  • joem
    Senior Member, Deceased
    • Aug 2009
    • 11835

    #2
    If your walnut shells clog the primer pocket it's either a screen size too small or it's used up. I only use walnut shells with a 12/20 screen size. I add a little Dillons case polish and some alcohol to the walnut shells. Adding too much alcohol makes the media wet and the dust will clog the primer pocket. When it takes too long to polish the brass I throw the stuff away and put in fresh.

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    • Allen
      Moderator
      • Sep 2009
      • 10628

      #3
      Thanks, I used sand once for the tarnished brass. It was too abrasive on the brass and thus wouldn't polish out afterwards. Have you ever used red rouge? The thing about Nufinish is that it adds a wax finish and keeps the cases from tarnishing for a long time. The downside is that it is made for car paints that have the clearcoat finish so there is no abrasive particles in it. I will try the Dillons and alcohol.
      Last edited by Allen; 05-10-2014, 08:34.

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      • PhillipM
        Very Senior Member - OFC
        • Aug 2009
        • 5937

        #4
        With the horizontal tumbler, best results will be the wet method with stainless steel pins.
        Phillip McGregor (OFC)
        "I am neither a fire arms nor a ballistics expert, but I was a combat infantry officer in the Great War, and I absolutely know that the bullet from an infantry rifle has to be able to shoot through things." General Douglas MacArthur

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        • joem
          Senior Member, Deceased
          • Aug 2009
          • 11835

          #5
          I have both types of tumblers. The rotary one are slower but turn out a nicer looking case. The vib jobs are faster but noisy and I can see the difference in case finish. Thumblers brand are very quiet and I run them overnight. As far as the wet method goes, I don't want to take the time to dry out the cases. A friend uses a ultra sonic cleaner but he has to dry his cases before loading but they look like brand new.

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          • PhillipM
            Very Senior Member - OFC
            • Aug 2009
            • 5937

            #6
            Once I learned how, drying cases is a snap. In the summertime I put it in a mesh brass bag an put the bag on top of my A/C condensing unit. The hot air moving across them drys them much faster than an oven.
            Phillip McGregor (OFC)
            "I am neither a fire arms nor a ballistics expert, but I was a combat infantry officer in the Great War, and I absolutely know that the bullet from an infantry rifle has to be able to shoot through things." General Douglas MacArthur

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            • joem
              Senior Member, Deceased
              • Aug 2009
              • 11835

              #7
              Originally posted by PhillipM
              Once I learned how, drying cases is a snap. In the summertime I put it in a mesh brass bag an put the bag on top of my A/C condensing unit. The hot air moving across them drys them much faster than an oven.
              What do you do in winter? Use the oven?

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              • Allen
                Moderator
                • Sep 2009
                • 10628

                #8
                Originally posted by joem
                What do you do in winter? Use the oven?
                If you have a heat pump like I do the compressor is used year round. In the winter the exhaust air may not be very warm but it will still be dry.

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                • broom jockey
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 331

                  #9
                  Stainless steel BBs.
                  Due to ammo shortages, no warning shot will be fired

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                  • Allen
                    Moderator
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 10628

                    #10
                    Broom and Phillip, I'll try the SS shot/BB's. I see ebay has a lot of listings for such----new to me.

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                    • Allen
                      Moderator
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 10628

                      #11
                      Originally posted by PhillipM
                      Once I learned how, drying cases is a snap. In the summertime I put it in a mesh brass bag an put the bag on top of my A/C condensing unit. The hot air moving across them drys them much faster than an oven.
                      I thought about buying an ultrasonic cleaner but figured the brass would look clean, tarnish gone but not shiney. Is this the case? Don't you still need to tumble afterward to get a shine? I'm comparing to the use of Tarnex cleaner. It cleans brass but leaves it very dull.

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                      • PhillipM
                        Very Senior Member - OFC
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 5937

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Allen
                        I thought about buying an ultrasonic cleaner but figured the brass would look clean, tarnish gone but not shiney. Is this the case? Don't you still need to tumble afterward to get a shine? I'm comparing to the use of Tarnex cleaner. It cleans brass but leaves it very dull.
                        I don't know about ultrasonic, but stainless steel makes them look brand new. In the wintertime I put the brass bag over a floor vent. I have a shoe rack for my clothes dryer I was thinking about trying one day.

                        http://www.midwayusa.com/product/635...-pins-5-lb-bag
                        Phillip McGregor (OFC)
                        "I am neither a fire arms nor a ballistics expert, but I was a combat infantry officer in the Great War, and I absolutely know that the bullet from an infantry rifle has to be able to shoot through things." General Douglas MacArthur

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                        • Allen
                          Moderator
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 10628

                          #13
                          OK, I see that you use water and some type of soap when tumbling with the SS pins. When you mentioned drying I thought you had used the ultrasonic. I suppose these pins almost last forever?
                          Last edited by Allen; 05-11-2014, 04:47.

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                          • PhillipM
                            Very Senior Member - OFC
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 5937

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Allen
                            OK, I see that you use water and some type of soap when tumbling with the SS pins. When you mentioned drying I thought you had used the ultrasonic. I suppose these pins almost last forever?
                            Yes, you are done buying media. I strongly suggest you purchase a magnet and a Frankfort arsenal media separator. You fill the separator with water and crank it and the pins fall to the bottom of the bucket. Before I bought the separSator I would just pick them out of the tumbler by hand and shake them out. Every now and then a pin would stay in the case so after drying I would put them in my vibratory tumbler with no media. A neat thing about this process is the cases will align themselves mouth up. I'd wait till the cases were all vertical then grab a handful then invert and hold against the inside rim and once in a while a pin would fall out. This has not happened since I started using the media separator.

                            I know this is starting to sound like a PITA, but if you like your cases and primer pockets spotless, it's the way to go.

                            My process uses my RCBS sidewinder case tumbler. RCBS thinks too much of one for me to buy one now, Thumlers is the way to go, but I work with what I have. The RCBS has a friction fit lid and if I use a sudsy soap, the lid will blow off and I'll have to break out the mop! Therefore I use about 3 tablesoons Cascade and a teaspoon of Lemi-Shine. Most often two hours are enough to clean the cases spotless unless they are black range pickups. If the brass is really dirty, I run it for an hour or so then change the solution then run it for another couple hours. After that I decant off the nasty water then run fresh water into the drum until the water is clear. Next I fill the frankford media separator bucket nearly full of water and add the contents of the drum into the separator and with just a few revolutions all the pins are at the bottom of the pail. I collect the brass in a brass bag and dry. I pour off the water out of the media separator bucket and scoop out the media with my hand and put it back in the drum then use the magnet wrapped with a plastic bag to collect the errant last few pins. I hod the magnet inside the drum, peel off the bag thereby dumping the last few pins.

                            I mainly shoot semi auto's that fling brass off into the sandy loamy soil and get somewhat dirty. In all honesty a soap and water bath in the sink is just as good as far as the rifle is concerned, but sometimes I like my brass to look new. This method does that, it's for vain cosmetic reasons rather than rifle function.

                            On edit: Use cold water for shiny cases, I figured hot may be better, but they were dull.
                            Last edited by PhillipM; 05-11-2014, 05:23.
                            Phillip McGregor (OFC)
                            "I am neither a fire arms nor a ballistics expert, but I was a combat infantry officer in the Great War, and I absolutely know that the bullet from an infantry rifle has to be able to shoot through things." General Douglas MacArthur

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                            • tmark
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 1900

                              #15
                              I use this liquid concentrate brass cleaner. I add a couple ounces to a quart bottle or half gallon jug to dilute it, tumble for a few hours and the brass comes out new looking.

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