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  • joem
    Senior Member, Deceased
    • Aug 2009
    • 11835

    #1

    Case head failure

    Finally happened, a case head failure on my Colt AR 15. Most likely due to a high primer or a weak case. Glad I had my broken shell remover with me.
  • Sunray
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 3251

    #2
    A high primer won't tear off or cause the case head to come off. An exceptionally old case or bad headspace will. Not likely the latter.
    Spelling and grammar count!

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    • 4F4Nam
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2011
      • 1058

      #3
      Yeah, if it was a reload, I would suspect it was finally stretched just a bit too far.

      Ed

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      • StockDoc
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2014
        • 1189

        #4
        Or, just a plain old cracked case, from over working the brass. Had some that cracked after the first use, think they were of Remington manufacture.
        liberum aeternum

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        • Jim in Salt Lake
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 854

          #5
          Measure your chamber, I use one of Mo Defina's gauges on a fired case. Then I adjust my sizing die to size a couple thousandths smaller. Idea is to work the brass only as necessary. Your brass will last a lot longer and you'll trim it a lot less, too. Mo Defina's business is called Mastercraft Sports and you can reach him at 203-775-1013. I don't think he is on the internet.

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          • joem
            Senior Member, Deceased
            • Aug 2009
            • 11835

            #6
            All I shoot is my reloads. I don't really keep track of how many times the cases are reloaded. Almost all my cases are military.

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            • Major Tom
              Very Senior Member - OFC
              • Aug 2009
              • 6181

              #7
              When the case head separated, did you get a powder blast? How did the receiver handle the gases? Just curious.

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              • joem
                Senior Member, Deceased
                • Aug 2009
                • 11835

                #8
                Originally posted by Major Tom
                When the case head separated, did you get a powder blast? How did the receiver handle the gases? Just curious.
                Well it blew the follower, spring and floor plate off. Other than that nothing else happened. After removing the broken shell and wiping down the bolt and carrier it shot fine.

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                • p246
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 2216

                  #9
                  Curious if your reloads were very hot. I've been brought two AR's that had case head failures on high mileage reloads. The one that came apart the owner loaded 55 grain stuff near Max pressure. The 2nd one was loaded down and only vented through the magazine like yours, We decided to toss the magazine, found nothing wrong with gun and it kept shooting.

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                  • joem
                    Senior Member, Deceased
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 11835

                    #10
                    Not really hot. Only 1.2 % over max recommended load.

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                    • Matt Anthony
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 404

                      #11
                      Originally posted by joem
                      Not really hot. Only 1.2 % over max recommended load.
                      Just wondering why your reloads are 1.2% over max recommended load? With temp. variations, your loads could be honestly hotter than you think.
                      Max loads are published as a guide line and those max loads could be too hot in your weapons. Looking at primers is a very good indication on how hot they are. I know you are a seasoned reloader, just wondering!
                      Matt
                      "When you tax away the rewards of effort, you destroy the motivation to achieve"

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                      • joem
                        Senior Member, Deceased
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 11835

                        #12
                        There were no signs of over pressure, but I'm sure the brass has been reloaded a uncounted number of times. Most times the necks split first or the base no longer goes into the shell holder, then the case hits the scrap bucket. By the way the load was 24.8 gr while the max published is 24.5 gr.

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                        • p246
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 2216

                          #13
                          You Missouri boys are always walking just over the line.

                          Signed Kansas Jayhawker

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                          • mikld
                            Member
                            • Oct 2013
                            • 69

                            #14
                            Anything over a maximum recommended load is considered HOT, by many, many reloaders...

                            I have only approached max. loads twice, once in my Ruger SBH, and once in my Taurus .357. Neither was accurate nor fun to shoot.

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                            • Hefights
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 596

                              #15
                              Originally posted by p246
                              You Missouri boys are always walking just over the line.

                              Signed Kansas Jayhawker
                              No, we're not walkin, we're riden over the line, the Kansas line, after a good raid.

                              Missouri Rider

                              Just kidding

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