.308 bolt gun cast mid-range load.

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  • barretcreek
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2013
    • 6065

    #1

    .308 bolt gun cast mid-range load.

    I have some IMR 4198 and would like to work up a cast load for 100-200 yard reduced targets. Any recommendations?
  • Sunray
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 3251

    #2
    Most cast loads involve handgun powders, not IMR4198. Produces too much velocity.
    What bullet weight?
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    • joem
      Senior Member, Deceased
      • Aug 2009
      • 11835

      #3
      I tried some cast in a K98. I couldn't get any accuracy while keeping under 1600 FPS and I had no gas checks.

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      • joem
        Senior Member, Deceased
        • Aug 2009
        • 11835

        #4
        I tried some cast in a K98. I couldn't get any accuracy while keeping under 1600 FPS and I had no gas checks.

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        • Parashooter
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 819

          #5
          Cast Bullet Basics For Military Surplus Rifles
          By C.E. Harris Rev. 9-6-93
          . . .
          3. 150-180-gr. gaschecked "200-yard target"
          1500-1600 f.p.s., 16 grs. of #2400 or equivalent.
          . . .
          My favorite load is the most accurate, Mattern's so-called "200-
          yard target load". I expect 10-shot groups at 200 yards, firing
          prone rapid with sling to average 4-5". I shoot high-
          Sharpshooter/low-Expert scores across the course with an issue
          03A3 or M1917, shooting in a cloth coat, using my cast bullet
          loads. The power of this load approximates the .32-40,
          inadequate for deer by today's standards.

          Mattern's "200-yard target load" is easy to assemble. Because it
          is a mild load, soft scrap alloys usually give better accuracy
          than harder ones such as linotype. Local military collector-
          shooters have standardized on 16 grains of #2400 as the
          "universal" prescription. It gives around 1500 f.p.s. with a
          150-180-gr. cast bullet in almost any military caliber. We use
          16 grains of #2400 as our reference standard, just as highpower
          competitors use 168 Sierra MatchKings and 4895.
          . . .
          Sixteen Grains of #2400 Is The Universal Load

          The same 16 grain charge of #2400 is universal for all calibers
          as a starting load. It is mild and accurate in any larger
          military case from a .30-40 Krag or .303 British up through a
          .30-'06 or 7.9x57, with standard-weight bullets of suitable
          diameter for the caliber. This is my recommendation for anybody
          trying cast bullet loads for the first time in a military rifle
          without prior load development. I say this because #2400 is
          not position sensitive, requires no fiber fillers to ensure
          uniform ignition, and actually groups better when you just
          stripper-clip load the rifle and bang them off, rather than
          tipping the muzzle up to position the charge.

          Similar ballistics can be obtained with other powders in any case
          from 7.62x39 to .30-'06 size. If you don't have Hercules #2400
          you can freely substitute
          17 grains of IMR or H4227, 18 grs. of
          4198,
          21 grs. of Reloder 7, 24 grs. of IMR3031, or 25.5 grs. of
          4895 for comparable results. However, these other powders may
          give some vertical stringing in cases larger than the 7.62x39
          unless the charge is positioned against the primer by tipping the
          muzzle up before firing. Hercules #2400 does not require this
          precaution
          . Don't ask me why. Hercules #2400 usually gives
          tight clusters only within a narrow range of charge weights
          within a grain or so, and the "universal" 16 grain load is almost
          always best. Believe me, we have spent alot of time trying to
          improve on this, and you can take our word for it.

          The beauty of the "200-yard target load" at about 1500 f.p.s. is
          that it can be assembled with bullets cast from the cheapest
          inexpensive scrap alloy, and fired all day without having to
          clean the bore. It ALWAYS works. Leading is never a problem.
          Once a uniform bore condition is established, the rifle behaves
          like a .22 match rifle, perhaps needing a warming shot or two if
          it has cooled, but otherwise being remarkably consistent. The
          only thing I do after a day's shoot is to swab the bore with a
          couple of wet patches of GI bore cleaner or Hoppe's, and let it
          soak until the next match. I then follow with three dry patches
          prior to firing. It only takes about three foulers to get the
          03A3 to settle into tight little clusters again.
          . . .

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