Trouble reloading .303

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  • joem
    Senior Member, Deceased
    • Aug 2009
    • 11835

    #16
    I had the same problem with .303. I have 2, one 1942 English and the other Idian built in 1967. I retired the English one as I would only get 3 reloads out of it even with neck sizing. Indian one must be tighter and I find once fired brass once in a while at the range.

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    • emmagee1917
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 1492

      #17
      If you want to try .308 bullets you might try replacing the expander plug with one out of a 30-30 , .308 , 30-06, etc. die . Worst case would be neck sizing only in a shortish .30 die after resizing .
      Chris

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      • Liam
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 1376

        #18
        The PPU stuff is good. I bought several hundred a couple years ago. Rick, I'd suggest slugging your bore to see where you stand with your .303 rifle. Here is a tutorial (if you need):



        The above link is for slugging a Mosin Nagant, but the process is the same. Once you know what your land/groove parameters are, you can shop for appropriate bullet diameter- .308, .309, heck, Hornady even makes a .3105 bullet, so there are choices out there to fit your need.
        Last edited by Liam; 06-25-2015, 08:09.
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        • Parashooter
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 819

          #19
          Folks, please be leery of those bore-slugging instructions. Two big problems -
          1. Fishing sinkers are unknown alloy, may be too hard and might have grit inclusions to scratch bore. (Buckshot, designed for barrels, is safer.)
          2. A stack of wooden dowels can break up and wedge inside the barrel and make a real mess that's sometimes very tough to remove.

          Here's a safer way, using a short wooden dowel only for getting started, then finishing with a good steel rod -

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          • psteinmayer
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2011
            • 1527

            #20
            I might be coming to this party a bit late... but .303 uses the same bullet as the 7.7x58 mm Arisaka round, which is a .312 dia bullet. This is because the Japanese designed the ballistic characteristics of the Type 99 around the .303 Enfield rifle. Hornady makes a good 174 gr FMJ BT bullet which is designed for both the .303 British and 7.7 rounds. They are available from Midway and Cheaper than Dirt (I just ordered and received 200 from Midway two weeks ago).
            "I was home... What happened? What the Hell Happened?" - MM1 Jacob Holman, USS San Pablo

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            • dogtag
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 14985

              #21
              I shoot nothing but my own cast bullets @ 314.
              With my homemade lube - no leading.

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              • Rick the Librarian
                Super Moderator
                • Aug 2009
                • 6700

                #22
                I think I'll start with .311 FMJ bullets and see where that leads me. Parashooter, what type (size) of buckshot is that you use?
                "We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst."
                --C.S. Lewis

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                • Parashooter
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 819

                  #23
                  0, 00, 000 ok.

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                  • Rick the Librarian
                    Super Moderator
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 6700

                    #24
                    I don't have access to any place I can get these (I assume, if you can get to a place that can supply reloading supplies for shotguns, they would have some of these?), so I have some .311 FMJ bullets I'll start with.
                    "We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst."
                    --C.S. Lewis

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                    • Parashooter
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 819

                      #25
                      Local gun shop or rural hardware store - about $5 - 45 pellets in 5 waterproof containers, bonus powder, primers, wads.

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                      • psteinmayer
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 1527

                        #26
                        LOL too funny Para
                        "I was home... What happened? What the Hell Happened?" - MM1 Jacob Holman, USS San Pablo

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                        • Rick the Librarian
                          Super Moderator
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 6700

                          #27
                          Not to keep throwing up roadblocks, but didn't some localities outlaw lead shot?
                          "We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst."
                          --C.S. Lewis

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                          • Parashooter
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 819

                            #28
                            Seems you don't care much for the buckshot idea. OK, do you have any reasonably soft .38 pistol bullets? (Most commercial lead pistol bullets are swaged or cast from fairly soft alloy.) A little tougher than buckshot, but still safer than fishing sinkers.
                            Last edited by Parashooter; 06-29-2015, 11:15.

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                            • psteinmayer
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 1527

                              #29
                              I think Lead Shot is only banned in wetlands (i.e. hunting geese and ducks)... but I could be wrong about that.
                              "I was home... What happened? What the Hell Happened?" - MM1 Jacob Holman, USS San Pablo

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                              • Art
                                Senior Member, Deceased
                                • Dec 2009
                                • 9256

                                #30
                                Originally posted by psteinmayer
                                I think Lead Shot is only banned in wetlands (i.e. hunting geese and ducks)... but I could be wrong about that.
                                You are correct. Buckshot is perfectly legal for taking bucks almost everywhere.

                                Of course if one has a muzzle wear gauge for .308 rifles the "2" equals about .310 bore diameter and the "3" is .311, more or less. As I said my NOS No 4 Mk 2 measured just under "2" on my CMP muzzle wear gauge which means it would be fine with .308 bullets. In fact both of my Enfields easily pass the "bullet test" with .308 bullets.

                                So Rick, if you have a .308 M/W gauge you can use it, which would actually be a bit easier than slugging the barrel.
                                Last edited by Art; 06-29-2015, 02:58.

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